2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

[Tank Vogel 191]

11 minutes ago, The Boss said:

STARTERS	MIN	FG	3PT	FT	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
K. KuzmaPF	40	12-17	7-10	7-10	1	6	7	4	0	1	0	1	+9	38

Orlando was 5-27 from 3 as a team tonight

Wish that draft hadn't flattened out

[A Better DJ & Photographer 456]

27 minutes ago, Ted Stickle said:

DSJ is shooting 39/30/66, pump the brakes a bit.

Passing up Kuzma for a 2032 54th pick is worse.

I would take those stats from a rookie that starts and be happy. At least it would have shown that we were attempting to get better in a position that we needed to get better in.

29 minutes ago, Ted Stickle said:

DSJ is shooting 39/30/66, pump the brakes a bit.

Passing up Kuzma for a 2032 54th pick is worse.

Passing up Kuzma, trading away ANY of our draft picks when we suck so bad just didn't make sense. We should have drafted in those slots to at least take a look at somebody.

[A Better DJ & Photographer 456]

51 minutes ago, Magicfan1987 said:

because skinny tall kids turn into Durant, Garnett, and McGrady, duh

Not many of them, and we desperately needed and still need a PG.

[jec 427]

1 hour ago, Magicfan1987 said:

because skinny tall kids turn into Durant, Garnett, and McGrady, duh

How could you forget the great Darius Miles?

[TheNameIsOrlando 310]

33 minutes ago, Ted Stickle said:

Orlando was 5-27 from 3 as a team tonight

Wish that draft hadn't flattened out

That quote may go down in Orlando Magic history of fails. It's just a terrible terrible stance to take. 

[Magicfan1987 266]

4 hours ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

That quote may go down in Orlando Magic history of fails. It's just a terrible terrible stance to take. 

especially with 2 way g league contacts which all could of and should be used on rookies who are legit prospects 

[Magicman28 295]

6 hours ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

That quote may go down in Orlando Magic history of fails. It's just a terrible terrible stance to take. 

In a deep ass draft too.

[Magicfan1987 266]

phoenix and Memphis play each other twice within a week so some wins will be had between those two while we tank so that's something to look forward to. currently at pick 6

[The Neighborhood Bully 266]

Trade deadline sellers

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Magic

It was a nice start, but reality has clobbered the Magic of late with 16 losses in 19 games. They’re not expected to shop Aaron Gordon, even if it could mean getting rid of a bad contract like that of Bismack Biyombo, though that could change depending on the offer.

If they could find a taker for Evan Fournier, they’d move him (four years and $68 million makes that difficult), and it might be less difficult to move Nikola Vucevic with only one year remaining on his deal after this season. But all in all, if Gordon stays, there is not much on the roster that would bring a significant return.

Hawks

The Hawks figure to be a wildcard. They have some veterans who could obviously help other teams — guard Marco Belinelli and center Dewyane Dedmon — but we can’t be sure how committed the new front office is to even the young pieces they have in place. Don’t be surprised if the team puts out feelers on the value of point guard Dennis Schroder.

If the Hawks could dump the remaining $55 million (over three years) on Kent Bazemore’s contract, they’d have to be willing to listen, too.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-deadline-2018-paul-george-thunder-marc-gasol-grizzlies-cavs-clippers-bucks-nuggets/1w4kglcudwq0m1tcmagph0q20o

Schroder would be an upgrade, but I'm not a big fan.

[Magicfan1987 266]

36 minutes ago, The Neighborhood Bully said:

Trade deadline sellers

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-deadline-2018-paul-george-thunder-marc-gasol-grizzlies-cavs-clippers-bucks-nuggets/1w4kglcudwq0m1tcmagph0q20o

Schroder would be an upgrade, but I'm not a big fan.

Vuc and Elf for Schroder, I'd swing it 

[Magicman28 295]

23 minutes ago, Magicfan1987 said:

Vuc and Elf for Schroder, I'd swing it 

I like Schroder more than EP. Don't think he makes us that much better in the long run though.

 

[The Neighborhood Bully 266]

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A frustrating exercise: figuring out why the Magic have sunk like a stone on defense -- even before this recent wave of injuries -- after a promising start. It can't all be the absence (until this week) of Jonathan Isaac. The dude is a rookie who has logged just 255 minutes.

They don't have any blatantly lazy, comatose defenders. Even Nikola Vucevic has improved his rim protection, though only when he plays at top intensity. Vucevic at even 85 percent effort transforms into a liability, fast.

They don't foul, allow an alarming number of offensive boards, or hemorrhage points in transition. Only 29.8 percent of opponent shots have come from deep, second-lowest in the league.

This might be a case of several so-so defenders adding up to something less than so-so -- and something much worse on bad, low-effort nights. Offenses have a foot or so of extra breathing room -- wider openings for pocket passes, longer runways for guards. They are comfortable.

One culprit: Elfrid Payton just kind of roams around doing whatever the hell he wants.

Payton has the length and athleticism to be a help-and-recover menace. Still: It is really hard to play free safety in the NBA. You have to think one step ahead of the offense -- to know playbooks and individual tendencies so well that when you gamble, you are almost counting cards.

Payton isn't doing this. He floats without any clear aim. He chases birds, losing focus on both the ball and his man. He'd be better off staying attached.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21831824/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-all-star-draft-nba