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Not that I see any of this happening, but...

 

I'm all for two years of Irving if both Gordon and Isaac stay.

 

Any outgoing picks in the '20 and later drafts must be well protected.

 

... and that probably won't get it done for Kyrie.

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Not that I see any of this happening, but...

 

I'm all for two years of Irving if both Gordon and Isaac stay.

 

Any outgoing picks in the '20 and later drafts must be well protected.

 

... and that probably won't get it done for Kyrie.

I think Minnesota has the best package.

If they include wiggins in the deal then I dont see how we can beat it.

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I think Minnesota has the best package.

If they include wiggins in the deal then I dont see how we can beat it.

 

I don't see why Minnesota would trade for Kyrie. doesn't really seem like a good bet for them.

 

We need a guy like Kyrie. many other teams don't.

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I think Minnesota has the best package.

If they include wiggins in the deal then I dont see how we can beat it.

 

If they are willing to trade Wiggins no one had a shot at Kyrie.

 

I don't believe they are willing to though, if they were--a deal would already be done.

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its complicated. you have to get a stovetop espresso machine and those never taste as good as the massive crazy $3000 espresso machines. then you have to take a bit of the coffee out and mix it with sugar and beat it until it's a sugar foam, then mix it with more coffee.

 

its an art form.

I 1000% understand. It's beautiful when done right.

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Wolves have Teague locked up to a long term expensive deal that is going to be hard to move. Also Wiggins is basically a lock to resign with them. If he goes to Cleveland I don't think he resigns as Lebron is so volatile and has a high chance of leaving which could leave Cleveland in ruins with a bunch of horrible huge contracts. So really all Cleveland would end up with is a player like dieng who would be included in the deal to make the salaries match

 

I think Minnesota is out

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If they are willing to trade Wiggins no one had a shot at Kyrie.

 

I don't believe they are willing to though, if they were--a deal would already be done.

 

Agreed.

 

With Teague, how much better would they really be with Irving?

 

Not that Irving isn't better than Teague, but is Irving better than Wiggins+Teague (relegated to a lesser role likely)+ what ever else they would have to give up?

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Or we can just stay as we are with like 9 wings. Having multiple players who play the same position and therefore don't fit together well as a team has become one of our hallmarks.

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Agreed.

 

With Teague, how much better would they really be with Irving?

 

Not that Irving isn't better than Teague, but is Irving better than Wiggins+Teague (relegated to a lesser role likely)+ what ever else they would have to give up?

 

No, and that's why that deal isn't happening.

 

Would you rather have Wiggins and Teague or Irving?

 

I'll take Wiggins and Teague every time. Teague isn't great but I like him and you can win with him. I would not be comfortable trading Wiggins at all.

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I think Minnesota has the best package.

If they include wiggins in the deal then I dont see how we can beat it.

 

Why would they include Wiggins?

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No, and that's why that deal isn't happening.

 

Would you rather have Wiggins and Teague or Irving?

 

I'll take Wiggins and Teague every time. Teague isn't great but I like him and you can win with him. I would not be comfortable trading Wiggins at all.

 

Yeah, and you know I don't think as highly of Wiggins as you do, but in this situation, the two of them is better than one Irving, especially with all of the scoring firepower that Minnesota should have next year. Teague and his better defense is better for that team than Irving's superior offensive abilities.

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Why would they include Wiggins?

A. They have nothing else to offer

 

B. He would be 4th scoring option behind KAT, Butler, and Kyrie and doesnt do anything else on the court as of now

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