CTMagicUK 1,476 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 If Zach Collins is on the board id trade any of our vets plus a couple of our remaining 3 picks for 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 What happens to Vuch/Fournier if we bring in a ball dominate gaurd like Smith? Do they fall in line and enjoy the game coming easier to them or do they throw fits like Vuch has done in the past. I know this can't be answered but how would the team look as a unit? Does it fit or just for the time being? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 If Zach Collins is on the board id trade any of our vets plus a couple of our remaining 3 picks for 12. LOL why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bauncey Chillups 288 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Marc SteinVerified account @ESPNSteinLine NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran. lol, SVG's out of his mind. The Pistons are junk and a vet isn't gonna save that sinking ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMagicUK 1,476 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 LOL why? I mean... why do you think? Because I think he'd look great in blue? If you don't like Collins an explanation of why would be interesting rather than a LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 I mean... why do you think? Because I think he'd look great in blue? If you don't like Collins an explanation of why would be interesting rather than a LOL. I mean if you're sitting there at 12 and want to develop a big man then fine. But there's not a huge gap between Collins and guys who are going to be there at 25. And it'd be one thing if Collins had legitimate production to go on. but for every great game against South Carolina he had terrible games against Xavier, West Virginia, UNC (where he fouled out in 14 minutes), Florida. And the 47% three point shooting looks nice until you realize he made 10 all year. So why dump a bunch of assets specifically to get him when Jeanne might be there at 25? or Bam Adebayo? Or why pay the cost to jump all the way to 12 when you can probably jump up to 16 for half the cost and get someone like John Collins or Jarrett Allen or Ike Anigbogu who I don't necessarily like but are all in that same tier with Zach Collins of young high upside bigs. so you can like Collins, but what makes him worth betting everything on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TyMagic 1 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 He IS really good but I wish he was taller. 6'3 may not translate well as a SG in the NBA. I think Monk will be the best prospect available at pick number 6, Magic NEED to take him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthi32 4 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 1. draft Tatum 2. Trade Payton and Pick Nr. 25 to Denver for Pick Nr. 13 3. Trade Biyombo and Mario to Minny for Rubio 4. draft a Center (Collins) with pick nr. 13 5. Resign Meeks Rubio/Augustin/FA or 2nd rounder Fournier/Ross/Meeks Tatum/Ross/Meeks Gordon/Tatum/Pick13 Vuc/Pick13/Zimmerman or FA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 1. draft Tatum 2. Trade Payton and Pick Nr. 25 to Denver for Pick Nr. 13 3. Trade Biyombo and Mario to Minny for Rubio 4. draft a Center (Collins) with pick nr. 13 5. Resign Meeks Rubio/Augustin/FA or 2nd rounder Fournier/Ross/Meeks Tatum/Ross/Meeks Gordon/Tatum/Pick13 Vuc/Pick13/Zimmerman or FA This would be the worst possible situation to develop tatum. no shooting and a center that operates in the same space as him. its a poor man's version of the Milwaukee Bucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 I mean if you're sitting there at 12 and want to develop a big man then fine. But there's not a huge gap between Collins and guys who are going to be there at 25. And it'd be one thing if Collins had legitimate production to go on. but for every great game against South Carolina he had terrible games against Xavier, West Virginia, UNC (where he fouled out in 14 minutes), Florida. And the 47% three point shooting looks nice until you realize he made 10 all year. So why dump a bunch of assets specifically to get him when Jeanne might be there at 25? or Bam Adebayo? Or why pay the cost to jump all the way to 12 when you can probably jump up to 16 for half the cost and get someone like John Collins or Jarrett Allen or Ike Anigbogu who I don't necessarily like but are all in that same tier with Zach Collins of young high upside bigs. so you can like Collins, but what makes him worth betting everything on? Collins also has tiny baby hands. Same measurement as Frank Mason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMagicUK 1,476 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Collins also has tiny baby hands. Same measurement as Frank Mason. Ok that's actually terrifying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Ok that's actually terrifying... Bam Adebayo has super weird hands. Tied for the longest but no width. Like he's got a normal bigman hand without thumbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
