Murphy13 185 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 Yea and I got lit up on here by Murphy for saying I'd give Vuch and our 23rd pick for him :svgsad:/> Rightfully so, it's still a bad trade. A 40 point game means nothing when the other player is still better in almost every conceivable way. Nik is still a far superior player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diplo 12 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 One thing that seems clear to me from watching some of the these tourney games: there's some good players in the draft, but no saviors. We're far from being a good team no matter where we end up falling in the lottery. Lonzo Ball looked pretty damn close to a savior today. I'm definitely picking him #1 if I was GM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,031 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 Rightfully so, it's still a bad trade. A 40 point game means nothing when the other player is still better in almost every conceivable way. Nik is still a far superior player. We can't even put up a fight against thr Cavs. We have lost 16 straight to them, an NBA record. Vucevic is a low stakes player. He'd be a backup in virtually every playoff team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibn Battuta 127 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 Vucevic is a low stakes player. He'd be a backup in virtually every playoff team Yea I agree with this. I hope we move on from him this offseason. He's not a bad player but with all the opportunity the past 5 years, I remember when we talked him up as Marc Gasol lite. He'd be great 6th man off the bench, like Kanter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy13 185 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 We can't even put up a fight against thr Cavs. We have lost 16 straight to them, an NBA record. Vucevic is a low stakes player. He'd be a backup in virtually every playoff team He'd be sixth man of the year quality on a deep team. He is still one of the better centers out there (avg starting center). While he isn't as good as Marc Gasol his adv metrics aren't that far off from his overall. I'm not advocating for anything specific, just that he isn't that bad. The point is that he's better than Russell, which is true. Russell gives you less than half the number of additional wins that Nik does. Adding another first round pick in exchange for Russell is adding insult to poor decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,031 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 The point is that he's better than Russell, which is true. We'll agree to disagree on this. I'd take Russell for his youth and potential, but it's not an argument I'm passionate about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,419 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 At this point, I really want one of these four: Fultz, Ball, Jackson or Tatum. I think these guys are the cream of the crop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,419 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 Meanwhile, what's up with Monk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy13 185 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 We'll agree to disagree on this. I'd take Russell for his youth and potential, but it's not an argument I'm passionate about I'm not passionate about it either, I understand the youth argument. He might be more valuable one day so its a fair assessment. At this point, I really want one of these four: Fultz, Ball, Jackson or Tatum. I think these guys are the cream of the crop. I agree, if we don't end up with one of them this season will be a true disappointment. I just hope that Jackson doesn't play his way into LAL's #2 like he has mine. Meanwhile, what's up with Monk? Not sure what you mean. His play in the tournament has been indicative of his performances against better teams. He's a high volume low efficiency player that doesn't contribute much in other categories. This is why he's going 8-10 and not 5-7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Neighborhood Bully 266 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 If we have to, I'd be willing to trade our pick plus the pick we got from Toronto to move up a spot or 2 and grab Jackson. I think he could eventually be the number one guy we need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 I want the 2nd pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 If we pick out of the top 4 it's gonna be a major letdown. Desperately want one of Fultz, Ball, Jackson or Tatum. When I hear our team saying they're getting Meeks back and he will be playing I get really concerned that this franchise just doesn't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
