Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 Lol I was hoping he'd keep going. It's unfair how they pick the head to heads. They essentially picked the top 25 but are letting the fans mix about one or two players by a place or two. Realistically we all know guys like 3D had better magic careers I don't know. Is it better to be the fifth best player on a team for several seasons or the second best player on a team for two seasons? If yes, it opens the door to argue jameer or Nick Anderson above McGrady If no, Vince Carter should be above Scott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimist Prime 197 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 I don't know. Is it better to be the fifth best player on a team for several seasons or the second best player on a team for two seasons? If yes, it opens the door to argue jameer or Nick Anderson above McGrady If no, Vince Carter should be above Scott To me, the knock against VC is the 2010 ECF. Since those playoffs were the only chance to prove himself, it leaves a bit larger a stain than others. He didn't have a chance for redeeming that performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Neighborhood Bully 266 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 The reality is Hezonja is not the brash player of YouTube lore. He is confident in himself — as evidenced by his scorching shooting in a woefully underused role with Croatia in the Olympics so far. But more than that, he is a good teammate. Hezonja quickly bonded with Victor Oladipo and Elfrid Payton and became one of the guys. He revels as much in a carefully timed pass as he does draining that big shot. When he got into transition, his athleticism was on full display as was his decision making and offensive acumen. Hezonja is the first to say how far he still has to go as a player. He seemed receptive to Skiles’ coaching and instruction. He was never given the chance on many occasions to correct mistakes, often pulled at the first sign of trouble for someone Skiles trusted. That is the problem of playing under a coach like Skiles. But don’t get it twisted: All those things everyone loves about Hezonja are still in there, hoping for the opportunity to burst out. It seems the last year has seen him chained to the deck as hard-charging coaches try to wring discipline and structure on a player who needs the freedom to work. Hezonja can regain his reputation under Frank Vogel. The Magic will rely on him more as their second unit needs some sort of catalyst now. He can have the rookie season everyone wanted for him. He can pull up from ridiculous range and play with swagger again. The boisterousness those around the Magic saw behind the scenes can show itself on the court with a coach who can be a little more forgiving. http://hardwoodparox...-mario-hezonja/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 137 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 [/size] http://hardwoodparox...-mario-hezonja/ I have been thinking about this, and have come to the conclusion that, once every few games, Vogel should turn the game over to Hezonja for a couple of minutes. Give him some time where he can be audacious, where he can pull up from way deep, throw crazy passes, go to the hoop hard, and, most importantly, fail without being pulled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 To me, the knock against VC is the 2010 ECF. Since those playoffs were the only chance to prove himself, it leaves a bit larger a stain than others. He didn't have a chance for redeeming that performance. maybe, but we gotta use that on Nick Anderson too then. Can't move the goalposts for different guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 I have been thinking about this, and have come to the conclusion that, once every few games, Vogel should turn the game over to Hezonja for a couple of minutes. Give him some time where he can be audacious, where he can pull up from way deep, throw crazy passes, go to the hoop hard, and, most importantly, fail without being pulled. definitely one game in the preseason I want Vogel to tell Mario "if you don't shoot 20 times this game you're not playing in the next one" just to see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 I think the list is probably 1. Dwight 2. Shaq 3. Anderson 4. Penny 5. McGrady 6. Jameer 7. Hedo 8. Lewis 9. Armstrong 10. Scott 11. Carter 12. Grant 13. Skiles 14. Catledge 15. Francis 16. Vucevic 17. Oladipo 18. Outlaw 19. Harris 20. Hill 21. Miller 22. Ryan Anderson 23. Theus 24. Afflalo 25. Garrity 26. Redick 27. Fournier 28. Bowie 29. Seikley 30. Howard 31. Mercer 32. Davis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalina Maria 64 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 I think the list is probably 1. Dwight 2. Shaq 3. Anderson 4. Penny 5. McGrady 6. Jameer 7. Hedo 8. Lewis 9. Armstrong 10. Scott 11. Carter 12. Grant 13. Skiles 14. Catledge 15. Francis 16. Vucevic 17. Oladipo 18. Outlaw 19. Harris 20. Hill 21. Miller 22. Ryan Anderson 23. Theus 24. Afflalo 25. Garrity 26. Redick 27. Fournier 28. Bowie 29. Seikley 30. Howard 31. Mercer 32. Davis Dwight over Shaq? No way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 Dwight over Shaq? No way! Dwight played more than double the amount of games in a magic uniform than shaq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimist Prime 197 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 maybe, but we gotta use that on Nick Anderson too then. Can't move the goalposts for different guys. Anderson played more in a Magic uni and had the steal against Jordan. I think that plays a role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 Anderson played more in a Magic uni and had the steal against Jordan. I think that plays a role. He's also a verb nba fans use every time someone missed two free throws in late game scenarios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted August 17, 2016 I think the list is probably 1. Dwight 2. Shaq 3. Anderson 4. Penny 5. McGrady 6. Jameer 7. Hedo 8. Lewis 9. Armstrong 10. Scott 11. Carter 12. Grant 13. Skiles 14. Catledge 15. Francis 16. Vucevic 17. Oladipo 18. Outlaw 19. Harris 20. Hill 21. Miller 22. Ryan Anderson 23. Theus 24. Afflalo 25. Garrity 26. Redick 27. Fournier 28. Bowie 29. Seikley 30. Howard 31. Mercer 32. Davis Mine personally would be Shaq Penny Tmac Anderson DA Grant Hedo Dwight Scott Jameer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
