Franchise408 116 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 I don't think winning the division is that realistic at all if I'm being honest. I'm not even sure we're 8th seed material yet. I'm hopeful but well see. Agreed. Division winner based on what? I don't see anything that makes us some kind of division contender right now. I don't see us as much better, if at all, than we were last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicFanInNevada 51 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Agreed. Division winner based on what? I don't see anything that makes us some kind of division contender right now. I don't see us as much better, if at all, than we were last season. Are you serious? We really don't look like a better team to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicblue 315 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Are you serious? We really don't look like a better team to you? He and barnette can't help but be negative all the time 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bisayaman 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 'Nuggets offer @dwyanewade 2yr 50M' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjgator 164 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 It all hangs on Payton. We're deep as ***** if he performs If he doesn't you may need to change your screen name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse81 242 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 If he doesn't you may need to change your screen name. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
God Hates Otis Smith 153 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 the magic have the elements to be an elite defensive team, but can they score? that will be the key to it all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike1989 68 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 the magic have the elements to be an elite defensive team, but can they score? that will be the key to it all... Last year we managed to average 102 points per game. This year we have upgraded the starting line up and the bench, so we should be able to match that if we go by a scoring by committee type approach unless one or two players become 20ppg players. Payton / Fournier / Green / Ibaka / Vucevic If we say the above is our starting line up. Then it is realistic for Payton, Green and Ibaka to average a dozen points per game. Though potentially we could see Ibaka given a greater role on offense because that was one of his complaints with OKC. If Fournier and Vucevic can average 18 a piece. That brings our starting line up to 72 points. Our bench last year averaged 36 points per game, which our existing bench should be able to match or better. That would be 108 points per game which would rank third in the NBA behind OKC and Golden State based on last year's numbers. Maybe a six point boost is a big ask, but even if Fournier doesn't boost his 15 points per game from last season, that's still 105 points per game which betters last year and would see us ranked in the top ten tied with Boston and Portland who scored 105 points per game. That line up does offer us three point shooting from Fournier and Ibaka. Maybe Vucevic can develop a perimeter game like Horford has done, he's certainly got the shooting touch and range. Payton's shooting has improved, he may never be a major threat, but if his improvement continues he could be a steady outlet. I don't expect much from Green. But our bench has shooting as well, good athleticism and defense. So we've certainly got the players capable of doing the job on defense and putting together a very solid and well balanced offense. However, if Vucevic heads to the bench (or is traded) and we insert Biyombo, then we would need greater contributions from the other starters to make up for Biyombo's liability on the offensive end. Since bringing him into the starting line up would see us lose around a dozen points, which drops us to 60. Depending on whether Vucevic stays or goes (and in turn what we get back), if our bench produces 36 points, that's 96 points per game. That would rank near the bottom in the league and we would need to play lights out defense most nights to win games. At the end of the day I think what we do with Vucevic is going to be key. If he starts, our offense should be fine. If he is benched, our offense could stutter at times. And if he is traded, we need to make sure we get an upgrade to our starting PG or SF position, because further bench depth and picks probably won't help us very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Saw this comparison on the "other" site but I didn't know we had such a strong connection to the 00-04 Pistons. Corliss Williamson was a player off the bench then. Scott Perry worked in the front office and Forcier was an assistant coach. Looking at the rosters, and I'm not saying they are 100% identical because one should never do such a thing, there are resemblances however. Credit our boy Nyce for pointing it out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Looking at Portland offseason moves..WOW. . You give up Crappe for Turner on a horrible contract and then you somehow, has not other option other than celebrate the Napier move. Just like we did when we traded a second for him last year. They still have no big and hoping for a trade for either Kanter or Vuc. Ouch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 I just noticed. Not sure if it was mentioned. Jason Smith agree on a 3 year contract with Washington. 5millions per year. Pretty good deal. Also, I saw the Henny asked Payton to be present in the meeting when they were recruitingad interviewing Bismarck and Gordon was present for the ones with DJ and Green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Looking at Portland offseason moves..WOW. . You give up Crappe for Turner on a horrible contract and then you somehow, has not other option other than celebrate the Napier move. Just like we did when we traded a second for him last year. They still have no big and hoping for a trade for either Kanter or Vuc. Ouch. Are they specifically targeting Vuch or is that what the fans want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
