Denton Defends His MVP Vote Update: Fires Back at Critics (Including Simmons)

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Dwight single handingly makes us the best defensive team. He also single handingly makes us the best 3 point shooting team of all time (even though he doesnt shoot any) by the way teams defend him. The orlando media members that voted for him see him everynight and see his impact defensively AND offensively. Even when Dwight scores 5 points for the entire game, 30 points from 3 pointers are directly from the way teams are defending him. Dwight is literally MVP, despite numbers when you take these things into consideration.

[bravlady 0]

Good for John Denton that he stands by his decision.

 

I don't care who the MVP is as long as it's not Lebron. The media and the NBA crams Lebron down our throats and that sickens me to no end. Even when the Cavs aren't playing we have to endure the endless commercials with Lebron's face plastered across them. Nobody will debate that he's a good player but character wise he is no Michael Jordan, he's no Magic Johnson, and he's certainly no Larry Bird. His pompous superior attitude is pathetic and why everyone feels the need to kiss his ringless hand still is a mystery to me. I used to find Lebron's commercials for State Farm and Sprite entertaining but now he's sad. He's playing with the intelligence of the Cleveland and NY fans and they don't see it.

 

I find it pretty disgusting that we, the fans, are found to be incapable of determining who should be the face of the NBA much less MVP. The media and Stern are making that decision for us and that is why I channel surf during commercials and mute when the likes of ESPN/ABC have to grace Lebron with their nightly worshipping.

[Mickinator 0]

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

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Originally posted by Mickinator:

I really don't understand what you guys are talkin about. I mean, I like Dwight as much as the next guy but he did not put up a top 3 MVP season. Yeah, his defense was great and deserving of the DPY, but I don't see why you guys think he should move up in his MVP rank this year when he had a arguably better season last year (better offensive season obviously). I know we made roster changed and got better players so we don't need as much of a production from him on that side of the ball, and I know he gets double / triple teamed when he has the ball in his hands so its very difficult to score, but I just don't see how someone could have Dwight in the top 3 when you have LBJ, Durant, Kobe, Carmelo, and Wades that have probably done more for their respected teams. Right now Dwight is putting up Mutumbo numbers, but with a little more scoring and less shots blocked, which is good, but not "great".

 

Anyway, here's my MVP list.

 

1) James

2) Durant

3) Kobe

4) Wade

5) Howard

 

I think you mean much better rebound, much higher scoring (besides Dikembe's rookie year when he averaged 16.6, he never went over 14), and close to the same blocks. Why do I say that? Because although it's hard to prove it, I honestly believe Howard would average more blocks without the 3second rule.

 

 

Either way, Howard's presence alone in the offensive end, while DOMINATING the defensive end, puts him up above Kobe, Wade, and Durant.

 

Not enough to put him above LeBron, though.

 

You're probably right about the blocked shot stat, but the rebounding is arguable.

 

I just think that if Dwight wants to get the MVP, he would need to average at least 19 or so ppg. Seems like their is a defensive award (DPOY) and a offensive award (MVP), which obviously shouldn't be how it works.

[BMP 424]

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Originally posted by bravlady:

I find it pretty disgusting that we, the fans, are found to be incapable of determining who should be the face of the NBA much less MVP. The media and Stern are making that decision for us and that is why I channel surf during commercials and mute when the likes of ESPN/ABC have to grace Lebron with their nightly worshipping.

 

I find it awesome, because most fans are ****ing stupid and you'd probably see Allen Iverson and T-MAC getting MVP votes.

 

 

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Originally posted by Mickinator:

You're probably right about the blocked shot stat, but the rebounding is arguable.

 

I just think that if Dwight wants to get the MVP, he would need to average at least 19 or so ppg. Seems like their is a defensive award (DPOY) and a offensive award (MVP), which obviously shouldn't be how it works.

 

No... it really isn't arguable. Dikembe's best rebounding year still wasn't as good as Dwight's, and he only went over 13 a year 3x, and Dwight has done it 3x in a row now, and will probably do it for a few more years.

[Mickinator 0]

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

 

 

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Originally posted by Mickinator:

You're probably right about the blocked shot stat, but the rebounding is arguable.

 

I just think that if Dwight wants to get the MVP, he would need to average at least 19 or so ppg. Seems like their is a defensive award (DPOY) and a offensive award (MVP), which obviously shouldn't be how it works.

 

No... it really isn't arguable. Dikembe's best rebounding year still wasn't as good as Dwight's, and he only went over 13 a year 3x, and Dwight has done it 3x in a row now, and will probably do it for a few more years.

 

Come on man... Dwight averaged 13.2 rebounds a game this season and 12.7 for his career, Mutumbo's average for his first 10 seasons is about 12.5... And anyway, 1 rebound per game isn't too significant.

[DuvalMagicFan 0]

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Originally posted by bravlady:

Good for John Denton that he stands by his decision.

 

I don't care who the MVP is as long as it's not Lebron. The media and the NBA crams Lebron down our throats and that sickens me to no end. Even when the Cavs aren't playing we have to endure the endless commercials with Lebron's face plastered across them. Nobody will debate that he's a good player but character wise he is no Michael Jordan, he's no Magic Johnson, and he's certainly no Larry Bird. His pompous superior attitude is pathetic and why everyone feels the need to kiss his ringless hand still is a mystery to me. I used to find Lebron's commercials for State Farm and Sprite entertaining but now he's sad. He's playing with the intelligence of the Cleveland and NY fans and they don't see it.

 

I find it pretty disgusting that we, the fans, are found to be incapable of determining who should be the face of the NBA much less MVP. The media and Stern are making that decision for us and that is why I channel surf during commercials and mute when the likes of ESPN/ABC have to grace Lebron with their nightly

worshipping.

 

couldn't have said it better myself. i agree 200%.

[Live or Die Magic 383]

I fail to understand why Denton even needs to defend his vote. I'm pretty sure that the Cleveland-based voters likely voted for LeBron and the OKC-based voters voted for Durant.

 

This is only news because Howard didn't win.

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Originally posted by Mickinator:

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

 

 

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Originally posted by Mickinator:

You're probably right about the blocked shot stat, but the rebounding is arguable.

 

I just think that if Dwight wants to get the MVP, he would need to average at least 19 or so ppg. Seems like their is a defensive award (DPOY) and a offensive award (MVP), which obviously shouldn't be how it works.

 

No... it really isn't arguable. Dikembe's best rebounding year still wasn't as good as Dwight's, and he only went over 13 a year 3x, and Dwight has done it 3x in a row now, and will probably do it for a few more years.

 

Come on man... Dwight averaged 13.2 rebounds a game this season and 12.7 for his career, Mutumbo's average for his first 10 seasons is about 12.5... And anyway, 1 rebound per game isn't too significant.

 

1 rebound per game isn't significant, but what about the 1 extra point per game Dwight would need to reach 19, the Magic number he needs to be at, according to you, to be considered for MVP? That one ppg is more significant?

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I believe that Stan defended Dwight on the voting for DPOY as well. I respect John more so than any other writer and I truly believe that if he didn't vote for Dwight he would have said so as well.

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For the record, my MVP ballot was as follows: 1. Dwight Howard; 2. LeBron James; 3. Kobe Bryant; 4. Kevin Durant; 5. Dwyane Wade. Six most certainly would have gone to Heat exec Pat Riley had I known he was planning to undercut rising, young coach Erik Spoelestra and cast his name back into the coaching ring. Verrrrrrryyyyy classy, Riles!

 

I just feel like my ranking of Howard, far and away the best defender in the game, first in the MVP balloting is nowhere near as egregious as, say, the 12 voters who left Howard off the ballot completely, the eight who didn

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

i like this back and forth between denton and simmons.

 

I usually defend BS's opinions on the board but he's still stuck in the Lebron hype circle (something he admitted in his book when he said lebron might be better than Jordan).

 

Simmons does an excellent job at looking back at things and developing an opinion months/years after the fact but in the moment he can be as biased as anyone.

[Live or Die Magic 383]

Anyone got a link for what Simmons said about Denton?