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Why are you reading that *****'s ****? Never go to Jemele Hill's facebook ever. Don't ****s with that *****. She hates the Magic forever.

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Originally posted by Hoopslife:

That's no secret. With Howard playing like crap this season Bynum has been the best Center this year.

 

He has been the best center so far this year. that's with Howard playing like crap. He's not in Dwight's league.

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Even though Jemele Hill is a complete idiot and a cavs homer, her statement is correct, for once.

 

bynum is just a much better offensive player than dwight. He can shoot, he has a go-to move, he can go to work in the post, he's a skilled big man. not to mention he can shoot free throws. I love dwight howard just as much as the next person, but to say dwight is better than Bynum is just ignoring the obvious. Dwight has a LOOOOOONG way to go to get anywhere near the offensive game that Bynum has.

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Even though Jemele Hill is a complete idiot and a cavs homer, her statement is correct, for once.

 

bynum is just a much better offensive player than dwight. He can shoot, he has a go-to move, he can go to work in the post, he's a skilled big man. not to mention he can shoot free throws. I love dwight howard just as much as the next person, but to say dwight is better than Bynum is just ignoring the obvious. Dwight has a LOOOOOONG way to go to get anywhere near the offensive game that Bynum has.

 

So with all of his dominant offensive game he is only averaging about a point or two more than Dwight in about 5 more minutes. Explain.

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What's even more amazing, is that Bynum is averaging 13.7 sots a game. This compared to Dwight's 8.9!!! yet only averaging 2 points more! that's freaking amazing. and they want to put him in Dwight's league? come on.

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What's even more amazing, is that Bynum is averaging 13.7 sots a game. This compared to Dwight's 8.9!!! yet only averaging 2 points more! that's freaking amazing. and they want to put him in Dwight's league? come on.

 

LOL are you even watching games? do you want to take a guess why Dwight is shooting such a high percentage from the field? it's not because he's the greatest shooter to ever step foot in the arena, it's because half, nay, 75% of his shots are dunks! It's hard to miss dunks don't you think? especially when you are point blank in front of the rim. It's not like dwight is making free throw dunks or impossible spin moves and flush dunks etc. When you are point blank in front of the rim and that much height/power yea you are going to dunk.

 

 

But bynum has a mixed game. Take a look at these highlights from not too long ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kee0aIw0itk

 

You will see an assortment of offensive moves that Bynum uses and even *gasp* a mid range shot. Points per game doesn't give you the whole story. You have to look at how they play. Lol you are basing your logic off of points per game? seriously? without even comparing their styles of play? It's like comparing a player A who dunks all game for 20 points, and a player B who scores 15 points but in a variety of ways. You wouldn't say that Player A is a better offensive player.

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Originally posted by bigpimpatl:

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Originally posted by Darthmagic:

What's even more amazing, is that Bynum is averaging 13.7 sots a game. This compared to Dwight's 8.9!!! yet only averaging 2 points more! that's freaking amazing. and they want to put him in Dwight's league? come on.

 

LOL are you even watching games? do you want to take a guess why Dwight is shooting such a high percentage from the field? it's not because he's the greatest shooter to ever step foot in the arena, it's because half, nay, 75% of his shots are dunks! It's hard to miss dunks don't you think? especially when you are point blank in front of the rim. It's not like dwight is making free throw dunks or impossible spin moves and flush dunks etc. When you are point blank in front of the rim and that much height/power yea you are going to dunk.

 

 

But bynum has a mixed game. Take a look at these highlights from not too long ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kee0aIw0itk

 

You will see an assortment of offensive moves that Bynum uses and even *gasp* a mid range shot. Points per game doesn't give you the whole story. You have to look at how they play. Lol you are basing your logic off of points per game? seriously? without even comparing their styles of play? It's like comparing a player A who dunks all game for 20 points, and a player B who scores 15 points but in a variety of ways. You wouldn't say that Player A is a better offensive player.

 

The issue isn't whether or not Bynum is a good or even better offensive player. In fact he is. the issue is if he is in the he same class as Dwight Howard and the answer is clearly HELL NO! Bynum is your typical 20/10 guy. Skilled scorer who can grab some rebounds and block a shot or two. Dwight is a force of nature on both offense and defense. He is virtually unstoppable when he gets the ball under the basket. That's why he leads the league in free throw shooting. He can block shots that other bigs simply can't, we have seen him have game saving blocks over and over again.

 

My point is that comparing their numbers now proves my point even more. Dwight is playing less minutes, putting up less shots and still averaging similar points, more boards, similar blocks and assists. with Bynum's varied offensive game, more minutes and greater number of shots shouldn't he be blowing Dwight out of the water stats wise? But he isn't. therefore you can't say Bynum's is on Dwight's level right. He is clearly at least three rungs lower IMO.

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Originally posted by Darthmagic:

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Originally posted by bigpimpatl:

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Originally posted by Darthmagic:

What's even more amazing, is that Bynum is averaging 13.7 sots a game. This compared to Dwight's 8.9!!! yet only averaging 2 points more! that's freaking amazing. and they want to put him in Dwight's league? come on.

 

LOL are you even watching games? do you want to take a guess why Dwight is shooting such a high percentage from the field? it's not because he's the greatest shooter to ever step foot in the arena, it's because half, nay, 75% of his shots are dunks! It's hard to miss dunks don't you think? especially when you are point blank in front of the rim. It's not like dwight is making free throw dunks or impossible spin moves and flush dunks etc. When you are point blank in front of the rim and that much height/power yea you are going to dunk.

 

 

But bynum has a mixed game. Take a look at these highlights from not too long ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kee0aIw0itk

 

You will see an assortment of offensive moves that Bynum uses and even *gasp* a mid range shot. Points per game doesn't give you the whole story. You have to look at how they play. Lol you are basing your logic off of points per game? seriously? without even comparing their styles of play? It's like comparing a player A who dunks all game for 20 points, and a player B who scores 15 points but in a variety of ways. You wouldn't say that Player A is a better offensive player.

 

The issue isn't whether or not Bynum is a good or even better offensive player. In fact he is. the issue is if he is in the he same class as Dwight Howard and the answer is clearly HELL NO! Bynum is your typical 20/10 guy. Skilled scorer who can grab some rebounds and block a shot or two. Dwight is a force of nature on both offense and defense. He is virtually unstoppable when he gets the ball under the basket. That's why he leads the league in free throw shooting. He can block shots that other bigs simply can't, we have seen him have game saving blocks over and over again.

 

My point is that comparing their numbers now proves my point even more. Dwight is playing less minutes, putting up less shots and still averaging similar points, more boards, similar blocks and assists. with Bynum's varied offensive game, more minutes and greater number of shots shouldn't he be blowing Dwight out of the water stats wise? But he isn't. therefore you can't say Bynum's is on Dwight's level right. He is clearly at least three rungs lower IMO.

 

you are contradicting yourself.

 

"The issue isn't whether or not Bynum is a good or even better offensive player. In fact he is."

 

then you say:

 

"Dwight is a force of nature on both offense and defense...He [bynum] is clearly at least three rungs lower IMO."

 

so which one is it? how is he three rungs lower than him if he is better than dwight on offense? is he that bad on defense? I'm gonna go ahead and say no.

 

Do I think that Dwight is physically more gifted and talented than Bynum? absolutely. Dwight is absolutely more athletic than Bynum. But that hasn't translated into improved free throws [so far]. It hasn't translated into a mid-range shot [so far]. It hasn't translated into more post moves or even a go to move [so far]. Dwight is simply relying on his physical gifts and feats to force his opponent to play his game. Lol again, it's really easy to be dwight's body type and be under the basket and be a "force of nature." it's a different story if he can dominate opponents infront of the basket.

 

"with Bynum's varied offensive game, more minutes and greater number of shots shouldn't he be blowing Dwight out of the water stats wise? But he isn't."

 

do you seriously believe that? Bynum playing behind Kobe Bryant, the best in the game? followed by Gasol and Artest? Odom? and you are complaining that he gets a couple more minutes and doesn't score as much? seriously??!! Not to mention he hasn't been healthy.

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Originally posted by bigpimpatl:

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Originally posted by Darthmagic:

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Originally posted by bigpimpatl:

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Originally posted by Darthmagic:

What's even more amazing, is that Bynum is averaging 13.7 sots a game. This compared to Dwight's 8.9!!! yet only averaging 2 points more! that's freaking amazing. and they want to put him in Dwight's league? come on.

 

LOL are you even watching games? do you want to take a guess why Dwight is shooting such a high percentage from the field? it's not because he's the greatest shooter to ever step foot in the arena, it's because half, nay, 75% of his shots are dunks! It's hard to miss dunks don't you think? especially when you are point blank in front of the rim. It's not like dwight is making free throw dunks or impossible spin moves and flush dunks etc. When you are point blank in front of the rim and that much height/power yea you are going to dunk.

 

 

But bynum has a mixed game. Take a look at these highlights from not too long ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kee0aIw0itk

 

You will see an assortment of offensive moves that Bynum uses and even *gasp* a mid range shot. Points per game doesn't give you the whole story. You have to look at how they play. Lol you are basing your logic off of points per game? seriously? without even comparing their styles of play? It's like comparing a player A who dunks all game for 20 points, and a player B who scores 15 points but in a variety of ways. You wouldn't say that Player A is a better offensive player.

 

The issue isn't whether or not Bynum is a good or even better offensive player. In fact he is. the issue is if he is in the he same class as Dwight Howard and the answer is clearly HELL NO! Bynum is your typical 20/10 guy. Skilled scorer who can grab some rebounds and block a shot or two. Dwight is a force of nature on both offense and defense. He is virtually unstoppable when he gets the ball under the basket. That's why he leads the league in free throw shooting. He can block shots that other bigs simply can't, we have seen him have game saving blocks over and over again.

 

My point is that comparing their numbers now proves my point even more. Dwight is playing less minutes, putting up less shots and still averaging similar points, more boards, similar blocks and assists. with Bynum's varied offensive game, more minutes and greater number of shots shouldn't he be blowing Dwight out of the water stats wise? But he isn't. therefore you can't say Bynum's is on Dwight's level right. He is clearly at least three rungs lower IMO.

 

you are contradicting yourself.

 

"The issue isn't whether or not Bynum is a good or even better offensive player. In fact he is."

 

then you say:

 

"Dwight is a force of nature on both offense and defense...He [bynum] is clearly at least three rungs lower IMO."

 

so which one is it? how is he three rungs lower than him if he is better than dwight on offense? is he that bad on defense? I'm gonna go ahead and say no.

 

Do I think that Dwight is physically more gifted and talented than Bynum? absolutely. Dwight is absolutely more athletic than Bynum. But that hasn't translated into improved free throws [so far]. It hasn't translated into a mid-range shot [so far]. It hasn't translated into more post moves or even a go to move [so far]. Dwight is simply relying on his physical gifts and feats to force his opponent to play his game. Lol again, it's really easy to be dwight's body type and be under the basket and be a "force of nature." it's a different story if he can dominate opponents infront of the basket.

 

"with Bynum's varied offensive game, more minutes and greater number of shots shouldn't he be blowing Dwight out of the water stats wise? But he isn't."

 

do you seriously believe that? Bynum playing behind Kobe Bryant, the best in the game? followed by Gasol and Artest? Odom? and you are complaining that he gets a couple more minutes and doesn't score as much? seriously??!! Not to mention he hasn't been healthy.

 

How does me saying that Bynum is a better offensive game than Dwight indicate that Dwight is not a force of nature on the offensive and defensive end? Let me ask you a question, who is a better offensive player Shaq or Hakeem? Which one is considered one of if not the most dominant center in the game? Hakeem was an offensive and defensive wiz, but Shaq was just simply a force of nature. His sheer size strength and athleticism made him a terror down low. If shaq came anywhere near the rim and got the ball he was fouled instantly.

 

Same with Dwight. His physical attributes make him an unstoppable force. And my point is that with all that Bynum has going for him, he still only averages 2 points more than Dwight does. IN 5 MORE MINUTES. AND TAKES 8 MORE SHOTS! How can you then claim he is better or can be better than Howard, when with all his offensive skills, with the defense not focused on him, playing with "the best player in the world" to take pressure off him, and with five more minutes of basketball only average 2 more points than Howard and say he is better? The argument is clearly flawed. When Bynum becomes the focus of the offense and the opponents defense and starts putting up the same numbers as Dwight then i'll be impressed. Until then he can't tug on superman's cape.

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