COLOMBIANO 118 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ManuGinobili: quote: Thierry Henry, Although he played for France in 1998, if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't played well in a WC. Henry did play well in 2006, even scoring in quarters against Brazil. I think he was part of the champions team in 98, but was not integral to that team. You are dead on about Raul, he was one of my favorites going up, but after he scored against Nigeria a beautiful goal in 98, he didnt do much else. Definitely a top 5 in stars disappointments in WC. As I am only 26, the ones I can name are Raul, Van Basten, Riquelme, Beckham... I will remember more with time. Etoo and Weah didnt play any I think, and those were amazing. At least Etoo will be able to show this WC what he can do. And the ones who played better in WC than in their whole career: Most notably Salvatore Scilacchi, in Italy 90. Baggio was very good in 90 and 94, but he was also good in clubs level. My father told me all that Paolo Rossi ever did was that amazing display in 82. So apparently, the Italians are very good when it comes to clutch situations. Its interesting whatever names you guys can throw out. Denilso and Lentini, I remember them for being paid a fortune in Italy and Spain, and never lived up to the billing. Scilacchi...wow. Wasn't this guy called at the very last minute because someone got injured? Biaggio was amazingin 1990. Let's switch it up and talk about countries that went to the WC with high expectations and didn't so **** like Colombia in 1994 and England...in 1998 or 2002...can't remember which WC was it. I do remember they didn't make it to one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManuGinobili 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 quote: Let's switch it up and talk about countries that went to the WC with high expectations and didn't so **** like Colombia in 1994 and England...in 1998 or 2002...can't remember which WC was it. I do remember they didn't make it to one of them. Argentina in 2002. How could you forget that? 1st in the qualifyings, while Brazil entered by the window as 4th. Bielsa had prepared a super team that played european style, with everybody running. Batistuta, Ortega, Crespo, Veron among the starters. We beat Nigeria. Lost to England. Tie with Sweden. Out in the 1st round. I didnt remember such a disappointment since Colombia in 94. And for the one who said Garrincha is better than Maradona, I do not know for sure, since I wasnt even born and just saw videos, but how can you put him over Maradona? Its like saying Romario or Ronaldo are better than him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crisby pancakes 126 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 England didn't qualify in 1994, they got robbed against Holland in the qualifiers big time. I would put Garrincha ahead of Maradona but then I'm English so i'm not exactly Maradona's biggest fan lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COLOMBIANO 118 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 quote: Originally posted by crisby pancakes:England didn't qualify in 1994, they got robbed against Holland in the qualifiers big time. I would put Garrincha ahead of Maradona but them I'm English s Maradon isn't exactly my biggest fan lol LOL!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManuGinobili 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2010 Speaking of which... "Hand of G-d or Brain of Idiot" http://soccernet.espn.go.com/w...p?cc=3888&ver=global Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted May 27, 2010 quote: Most notably Salvatore Scilacchi, in Italy 90. Baggio was very good in 90 and 94, but he was also good in clubs level. My father told me all that Paolo Rossi ever did was that amazing display in 82. So apparently, the Italians are very good when it comes to clutch situations Unless it's 1994, ahha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManuGinobili 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2010 All-Star team of absents: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/w...p?cc=3888&ver=global I think Zanetti and Cambiasso should not be there, since time and time again they have proven they are not capable of providing the same performances that they do on Inter wearing the National Shirt. Plus Inter Milan plays like cowards, with everyone defending. Argentina will most certainly dont play like that. Also Essien (with a recent injury), Benyaoun, Falcao and Ronaldinho are missing in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COLOMBIANO 118 Report post Posted May 30, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ManuGinobili:All-Star team of absents: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/w...p?cc=3888&ver=global I think Zanetti and Cambiasso should not be there, since time and time again they have proven they are not capable of providing the same performances that they do on Inter wearing the National Shirt. Plus Inter Milan plays like cowards, with everyone defending. Argentina will most certainly dont play like that. Also Essien (with a recent injury), Benyaoun, Falcao and Ronaldinho are missing in my opinion. I wouldn't call them cowards. That's their style of play and look where it got them. I really don't know much about Zanetti playing for Argentina, but you gotta love this old dude playing for Inter. He's amazing! I was also really hoping to see Ronaldhino back with Brazil. This would've been his last WC and time to redeem him self. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnFuego 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2010 quote: Originally posted by EnFuego:OK, here's my first take. Not much thougth (and a lot of homerism) But here's my take on how the tournament will shape up. (Winner to the left) Second Round France v. Greece England v. Serbia Germany v. USA Argentina v. Mexico Netherlands v. Paraguay Brazil v. Chile Italy v. Cameroon Spain v. Portugal QF1 Brazil v. Netherlands QF2 England v. France QF3 Argentina v. Germany QF4 Spain v. Italy SF1 Brazil v. England SF2 Spain v. Argentina 3RD England v. Argentina FINAL Spain v. Brazil Champion Spain C'mon boys. Time is here!!! Let me add the first round Group A - France and Mexico Group B - Argentina and Greece Group C - England and USA Group D - Germany and Serbia Group E - Netherlands and Cameroon Group F - Italy and Paraguay Group G - Brazil and Portugal Group H - Spain and Chile The rest I had already had and will leave the same. I guess I am very Eurocentric (Greece is looking stupid already). El Mundial!!! Brutal. But I'm still good from the Quarterfinals on as I only had France and Italy there and I had them both ending there. Manu had a post last year saying that South American teams were underated. I guess you have been proben right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted June 2, 2010 BOO!!! U!S!A! all da way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManuGinobili 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2010 quote: BOO!!! U!S!A! all da way! US does not stand a chance...They had a good run in 02, but I dont see them going further than round of 16 this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crisby pancakes 126 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ManuGinobili: quote: BOO!!! U!S!A! all da way! US does not stand a chance...They had a good run in 02, but I dont see them going further than round of 16 this time. I have to agree with this. A lot of Americans will be suprised with how good Slovenia is. I think USA will have done well if they make it out the group as the USA v Slovenia game is a 50/50 one. Germany, Australia and Serbia are also all better teams so I think they make 2nd round at best. The world cup is always about upsets, so who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
