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Its simple. Turner does not post, because he is not a post player. He is pick and pop. Vuch kills small players in the post. This is important in this new switching league. Vuch also commands a double team there... It is why we can run the offense through him and where a lot of his assist are generated.

B/R, I dont think that turner is better than Vuch. He is a better defender but vuch has him in every other category - especially passing, rebounding, and post game. There is not a big gap from Vuch and Joker. Joker is no stud on defense either. Vuch is actually a better defender and rebound than Joker. Easy, I think vuch could be higher on that list. Particularly, if Joker is number 1.

It was me thinking more so out of the box of things that could happen. We do have 3 centers for a reason. Mo is not that much bigger than isaac. Isaac is just more versatile. I can see isaac there, if neeed.

Don't forget, isaac can also start at center.

I agree, but it would sure tell us how far he is as a player.

Game 47: Raptors: Pure Magic (Pros): Fultz played ok. He had 4 ast with no turnovers. He also had a few nice drives to the basket. He does a great job in traffic. He was also one of the few plus players. With the injuries that happen, Fultz may have a minute increase and the offense may run through him. This could be great for the future on Fultz and the team, if management make the decision. The magic need him to be special. There are only 3 scorers on the team now and without fultz the magic could lose the next 10 games. That sounds like a lose season. Disenchantment (Cons): Though, they looked better, he did not hit his long ranged shots. Other than one last sec heave, he also missed his mid range shots too. Additionally, Fultz is still stuck on 25mins a game. He did not seem to go down hill or push the tempo as much this game. I think he could have been more aggressive.

Lol He would never play... He is not currently better than khem. Balance has been the key for development. I think they split time like DJ and fultz. I would not finish the game with mo. I care less who starts.

Got me to laugh. Maybe mo surprises us all. Time will tell. The stats have been in his favor... lol

DJ maybe our best shooter. I think the issue with DJ and fultz is who has the ball. Fultz needs the ball and DJ needs to space the court. We just need to stop taking the ball out of Fultz hand.

This needs to be a fultz coming out party. We need to use heavy pick and roll on offense. If we give fultz the keys to the kingdom, we have a chance. Without fultz, this will be a lost season. I think this will be the most important time of the year. It remains me of isaac's rookie year. him and ross gotting hurt. We never recovered at that time. Without 30 mins of fultz, I don't see it happening.

lol. I have a little time before work, but those things were said and I am watching. Ready or not, mo is coming.

I assure you, I have been one the the most critical of Mo. I am no Mo zealot. I have been critical to the point that I was told I was drunk, bias, hyperbolic, meandering and condescending about Mo, so please know, I have no problem saying when Mo is making plays that are "Game Losing Plays". I was told, by a forum HIGHLY respected person, that Mo is currently a plus player, a top 10 shot blocker, and is not a reason for our short comings, regardless of how badly he has failed my personal eye test. The numbers don't lie and my thoughts were exaggerated and did not matter. Therefore, I have taken a wait to see approach and God has immediately blessed me and this individual with an abundance of Mo. Now, those that wanted more of mo for develop and growth will get what their heart's desire. I think people need to be careful in what they hope for in life. It is bad to blindly go by stats, because there is a human element. Personally, I dont currently like what I see from Mo, but I am going to try to soak in all the goodness that mo has to offer. Statically, we are told, he is not a bad player. We will now see and I AM WATCHING.

In my opinion, we were trending in the right direction before the injuries.

Bamba played okay this game. There was only 2-3 times he made a play I did not like... example, the play when they scored at end of the clock, he was the last one down the floor and touching the paint. If he would have sprinted he could have challenged the late shot. He did okay this game. Those that want more mo bama and think he is a difference maker, we will see. Maybe he is a player that does better with out much competition. Some people don't like looking over their shoulder. Maybe this will be the fire he needs. Bottomline, we will see what team looks like with out Vuch - good or bad.

9 winnable games. I say 6 out 10. Which is good on the road

MCW is out for tomorrow. we will not know anything for about 3 more days via the coach.

I dont think any of us want him to be bad. It is just hard to watch. The pain of all those loses to get mo is hard to fathom if he is a bust. I just hate missing on talent, so I hope it works out. So when I see thing on the court, it really does trouble me. I remember watching Trae young and doncic all year, before they were drafted. I just knew we would get one of them. Then we had the nerve to win the last game of the year. We were one pick away from young. Our prize after that was Mo bamba. Everyday I am blessed to see doncic and young kill. It just makes me smile.

One thing about mo bamba and the summer league, he barley played. He got in 2-3 games (if i remember correctly) and that was it. We all know he can show up for 1-2 games. His issue is showing a motor over a longer period. I also want him to get real time mins, I just want him to be pulled during games, if he is killing us. If he does not know the plays in practice or the basic rotations, then do not play him until he has a minimum understanding. If he is lacking major in understanding of basic rotations and plays and just purely sucks even in practice. Then I can see him being jettisoned to the g league to figure that out. As of now, as much as I hate watching him, he is not impacting statically good or bad during the game - even though it looks horrific (at least to me). Therefore, the best place for him is to play is in real games, but when mo starts hurting us in wins and loses, you cant allow that to happen. The way he is playing, it is only a matter of time that it reflects bad on the team. Team first, I was always told; but until then, we will see the dear in headlights for 14mins a game... I just dont want it to cause us to lose. I want us to be top 4-5 in the east. At the same time, there needs to be a balance. Regardless if I liked it or not, we did invest a 6th pick on Mo Bamba. That was a whole season of suckage. I dont want mo or the pain of our fan sweat equity to go to waste. Those years was painful to watch. I really do want Mo to do well. I am a fan of the team. Teams die on missing on their high picks. We had victor, gordon, payton, mario, isaac and mo all top ten picks. We need to do better at development and being patience. It is imperative we find the balance.

I can't check. I am at work. I think his win share was in the negatives

I will leave mo alone for a few games. I waited for 10 plus game. Some people really like his d for some reason. I don't. He doesn't pass the eye test. I will try to watch even more over the next few games. Maybe I am wrong.

I will watch for this good to great defense next game. I just don't see the impact as consistently as you. He is the only rotation player that makes me cringe when playing. I watched the last game 3 times and I missed what you are talking about. I'll pay more attention.

It is situational as well. Post play vs wing play. Off ball vs on ball. Live dribble vs killed dribble. So if mo is on the ball with live dribble wing than you can dont have highs. It is more mid hand and Hands are pumbs up and out to the SIDE to get into passing lane, but if you are off ball like mo is he needs to be high and wide. Be big in the paint. Active in and out of the lane. Hands ready for blocks. It does matter the situation. Not all defense i best hands up. Mo just plays a position were it is done more than a wing vs the dribble.

but it is high hands. not just sticking your hand out. High hands to prevent rip through and cheap calls.

good point. I guess my issue is more that he came in as a defender. When vuc had more problems on defense, he still did other things to be effective like rebound and hit shots. He was never labelled a defender. Mo was labelled a defender coming out. therefore, Mo was suppose to bring defense as a starting point and I am looking for it. I think that maybe my issue.

That is what I mean. He has played too long not to know that by now.