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Dwight Howard said to be upset with Vince Carter deal [Steve Kyler]
Tank Vogel replied to ReeceGaines's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
quote: Originally posted by Lawyers,Guns.and Money: quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by God hates Magic fans:If they told dwight that vince=no lee and hedo, i'd be pissed to, you trade two good player for one good player. Hedo opting out and not accepting Orlando's offer = +Vince -Lee Orlando waiting Hedo out and doing nothing until he decides = possibly waiting your team out of possible improvements and completely destroying your leverage when bargaining with Hedo because now you have no other options. The Magic waiting around for Hedo would be like meeting a good looking girl out at a party. You talk to her for a long time, you guys seem to hit it off, then you ask her if she wants to take off and go somewhere quiet, and she says "Wait a little while, I want to see what else comes along." So you tell her that you really want to hang out, and you are going to go talk to your friends while she makes up her mind. Meanwhile, a couple other hot girls (some hotter than the first) come by and make a pass or two at you, only, you turn them down because you are waiting on the other girl. What you aren't noticing, is that one by one, these girls are all leaving the party with other guys. Pretty soon, all that's left is a couple of fugly chicks, the girl you were talking to from the beginning, and 4 guys. Every single one of those guys wants to take home the same girl. The competition just heated up, and you could have been home alone with some other hot chick had you not had your head up your rear end earlier hoping things would work out with one girl in particular. A bird in the hand... Excellent analogy. Not to mention, after a few romps the second girl will be gone and you are free to go after a younger girl. While the first girl would have gotten clingy and stuck around for 3 extra years. -
Are the Magic making too many moves
Tank Vogel replied to numba1rocker's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Yeah, but the Lakers essentially added Bynum and Ariza to the rotation (hurt against the Celtics), and it was their first full season with Gasol. Also, if Hedo was willing to sign on the cheap like Odom will do to keep their team together, things might be different. -
When do we find out about our Summer League team? UPDATE pg2: ryan anderson on team
Tank Vogel replied to DontPushMe's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
The Knicks supposedly have a lot of interest in Cabezas. -
Dwight Howard said to be upset with Vince Carter deal [Steve Kyler]
Tank Vogel replied to ReeceGaines's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Winning will lead to good chemistry. -
Detroit fans think Sheed to Orlando...
Tank Vogel replied to Wharf Rat's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
quote: Originally posted by echo4papa:I would love to see Sheed on this team. Even if you think he will be useless, just having him on our bench and knowing that he won't be on another contender to play solid D against Dwight has to be worth the Vet Minimum. Right? He is going to cost a lot more then the vet min, though. That's the issue. -
Detroit fans think Sheed to Orlando...
Tank Vogel replied to Wharf Rat's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
quote: Originally posted by Nessloch: quote: Originally posted by Kramer: quote: Originally posted by Nessloch:My God, sign the 24-year-old Bass and shut up this Rasheed nonsense FOREVER. /bitterness Think about it this way. If Rasheed signs with Boston or San Antonio, they can guard Dwight well straight up. We probably don't win that series I know, and that's a good point. But I'm already upset about the Vince trade (sorry about that, to most of you) and signing Rasheed would only amplify those emotions. Everything looks good on paper, but... I'm really not feeling any of this. I think losing a career from Courtney Lee for 2 years of Vince Carter is going to bite us for many years to come. And if we sign this F*** FACE (pardon my bitterness) instead of Bass, that's yet another boneheaded sacrifice, IMO. Why don't we just trade for Antawn Jamison while we're at it and call it a UNC reunion tour. Boston traded a 23 and 11 guy in Al Jefferson and a nice wing in Jeff Green for their title. You think they would take it back? -
Insider Info (ESPN) Update pg.11(Best F.A. remaining)
Tank Vogel replied to ball junkie's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Channing Frye would give us nothing that we didn't acquire in Ryan Anderson. Iverson would be awful. We need a backup point that can defend and distribute. -
Milovan Rakovic, we drafted him, no one remembers him, he might come over
Tank Vogel replied to ReeceGaines's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Cheap alternative to keeping Gortat. -
When do we find out about our Summer League team? UPDATE pg2: ryan anderson on team
Tank Vogel replied to DontPushMe's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Hendrix is a very intriguing player. Perfect guy to have on the bench. -
When do we find out about our Summer League team? UPDATE pg2: ryan anderson on team
Tank Vogel replied to DontPushMe's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Jerel McNeal? -
Who's door will the Magic target first come July 1?
Tank Vogel replied to Magicfan57's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Bass is not a finished product. If he takes 2 years reach his full potential, we wasted Vince Carter. Sheed makes this team championship ready, and when he and Carter are finished we can retool. If they find some crazy way to sign both, awesome, but if the goal of the trade was championship or bust, Sheed is option A. -
Look at the Laker bench: Odom, Brown, Walton, Vujajic, Farmar, Powell, and Mbenga. The last two being two big bodies for insurance. Odom was the only high-paid guy, and the rest are young, high energy players. They would have most of those guys in at the same time for stretches (particularly 2nd Q) throughout the playoffs, and nobody would make up ground on them. Not Houston, not Denver, not us. Allen Iverson and Grant Hill aren't going to come in and play 15 minutes a game, defend, and make effort plays like drawing charges and diving for loose balls. Pietrus, Anderson, and Redick is a decent bench to start with. Anthony Johnson wasn't bad when his minutes were limited. Pietrus would get close to starters minutes, similar to Odom, while the rest get 10-20 a game depending on the situation. They can overpay Gortat for his 15 minutes or they can grab some cheap young players who will bring energy into the game while our stars rest. We have enough vets if we sign Sheed, with Shard, Carter, and Nelson. Balance them out with youth.
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Black on blue looks sick. (Sorry for Duke haters).
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quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: and could you imagine seeing Vince,Bass and Pietrus on a fast break together? Unstoppable. pietrus would probably keep it himself and botch a layup He'd go for a sweet fingerroll from 10 feet out and get called for an offensive foul.
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Why Do You Guys Think..........
Tank Vogel replied to WestCoastMagicFan's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Grant Hill. It's amazing how we would love a guy like Rasheed Wallace, but loathe Hill. It would take some warming up but coming in at the minimum would go a long way. -
How Will Vince even help the Orlando Magic?
Tank Vogel replied to OnlyIntelPosts's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Turk was tall but had credit card hops. Which is why he resorted to laying it up off of the backboard and completely missing the rim, while hoping for Dwight or the refs to bail him out. -
How Will Vince even help the Orlando Magic?
Tank Vogel replied to OnlyIntelPosts's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Yeah ESPN hates this trade for Orlando Hollinger -
We have enough excitement. We need some toughness and some intelligence.
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3 undrafted players we should look at?????
Tank Vogel replied to Noonskadoodle17's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Devendorf is terrible. Wouldn't mind Adrien though. -
quote: Originally posted by Kramer: quote: Originally posted by rtillaree: quote: Originally posted by Magicfan57:Looks good in a Magic uniform who doesnt look good in a Magic uni? Well played
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Something to think about with roster rotation
Tank Vogel replied to Goulet's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
JJ earned a spot in the rotation after the playoffs. Considering Vince's age they might want to limit his minutes so JJ needs to be effective off of the bench. Pietrus is a defense/energy guy, which is great as the 6th man but not as effective if he is starting the whole year. -
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Is Marion even under contract still?
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It would be awesome on NBA 2K10, but not sure how it would work on the court. Sheed is a better fit and I'm still on the fence about him. Not to mention that Houston really wants him back.
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Magic Trade For Vince Carter [Updated: Pics in Magic Jersey]
Tank Vogel replied to Jareth Cutestory's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Love this trade. Will miss Courtney Lee, but you don't pass on Vince Carter coming off maybe his best season as a Net. I will also miss Hedo if he leaves, but this gives the team much better flexibility salary-wise when Carter's deal is done.