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    I think the difference is and will be the stats. Noel will get a bunch of blocks and steals, but gordon most likely will play great positional defense. It is easier to see noels as a defenive force. People will have to look hard and know basketball strong to see gordons impact. I dont see gordon as a stat stuffer. I do see him as a good player. He will need to work hard to be better than good; like alot of people do in this draft.

     

    For starters, I don't think Noel is going to have a particular advantage over Gordon in the steals department. All the scouting reports I read showed Gordon as being a very active perimeter defender who was good in the passing lanes and had good hands. Fortunately, he didn't gamble for steals so he was a productive steals guy and not a detrimental one. I'm sure Noel will have an advantage as a blocks guy though. The main point I would make is that steals and blocks don't necessarily make a good defender. Casual fans might appreciate the stats more - and the fantasy basketball guy in me definitely will - but as a Magic fan I want the guy who makes the Magic a better defensive team. And Noel might ultimately be that guy....he certainly does have the defensive tools to be. I just think that the two players are very similar from an offensive and defensive perspective. It's surprising to me that I didn't see the glaring similarities before Catman pointed them out.

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    This is from David Thorpe....It was his 5 biggest, must-see draws of the summer...Dante Exum.

     

     

     

    Now, for those of you that were posting you didn't see his quickness or first step Mr. Thorpe(and me) would disagree with you.....I know Soul Bro quotes David Thorpe often and thinks highly of his down-to-earth writing style.

     

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11262752/andrew-wiggins-best-rookies-las-vegas-summer-league-nba

     

    Do you suffer from short term memory loss? That's the only explanation that I can come up with for how you have forgotten that you spend the last two months posting every article clipping that you could find that suggested the Exum would not be a good fit for the Magic. It was literally every day that you were saying that no one knew anything about Exum. How he didn't play against top flight competition in Australia. How his poor shooting would not be a good fit with Oladipo. All of these things are statements that you made less than a month ago. Now you are posting articles from David Thorpe in a way to suggest that passing on Exum is likely going to be yet another Hennigan mistake, despite the fact that the only new information that we have to go on since a month ago is some pretty poor summer league showings. So, seriously, did you bump your head as a child?

     

    Also, Catman just mentioned this and I'm kind of surprised that I didn't think of it myself. Gordon and Noel are both super young players that are VERY raw offensively and very talented defensively. The only differences that I can see is that one of them doesn't have a history of injury problems and didn't play at the University of Kentucky.

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    First off, thanks to the Captain again for taking the time to give his interpretation of Zach Lowe's article....I'm going to quote the Captain here:

     

     

     

    I take it by this you're not sure (convinced) how Henny's moves are gonna pan out ???

     

     

    The rest of your post was dumb but I'll address this point. The answer is no, neither Captain, nor I, nor anyone else that is even remotely reasonable are convinced how the moves that Hennigan made this offseason are going to work out.

     

    We drafted two rookies, one of which is 18 years old. It will take at least a couple of seasons to really evaluate Gordon and at least one season to evaluate Gordon. There's no way to be 100 percent positive on how a rookie is going to turn out unless you draft Tim Duncan.

     

    I know exactly what we are getting from Channing Frye. That move doesn't concern me at all. I feel like I know what I'm getting from Luke Ridnour and is contract can voided after this season. I have no idea what we are going to get from Ben Gordon and his contract can be voided after this season as well. What I can say is all three of these players are considered good shooters and lack of shooting is something you were consistently bemoaning for months leading up to the draft when we thought we might draft Exum. Speaking of Exum, I haven't heard you mention his name recently. Are you back off his bandwagon for now?

     

    The only sure things that I see are moves that Hennigan made before this summer. Oladipo is a sure fire good NBA player with the potential for more. Vucevic is a solid NBA center with the potential to maybe make one more slight jump before he hits his ceiling. I'm not as convinced with Tobias Harris but he's, as a worse case scenario, a guy that can come off the bench and provide scoring. And he also shed all of the horrific contracts that were on the Magic books within 2 years. Thats incredible. These moves did work.

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    As of right now, the Rockets, and Heat are done. Other teams such as the Nets, Hawks, Thunder, Cavaliers, Pacers, etc...will continue to stagnate. With patience, half of the bottom .

     

     

    You think the Cavs are going to stagnate after signing the best player in the league and drafting the rookie with possibly the highest ceiling in the draft? That doesn't say stagnation to me.

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    I really can't understand why anyone has an issue with the Ben Gordon signing. I think pretty much everyone is aware that by overspending for Gordon we were still way under the cap floor for the season. With that in mind, the only conclusion I can come up with is that some fans are concerned that the Magic are going to bill the cost of his contract to season ticket holders homes. Unless someone here is planning on cutting Ben Gordon a check, you have no reason to complain about this.

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    The official website of the NBA had the Magic ranked 24th when the season ended....After Henny's off-season moves we fell to 27th.

     

    Why does this matter? What do we gain by being ranked higher? What is the benefit of ranking offseason moves before anyone has actually seen how the pieces fit together on the court?

     

    I agree that some articles have been positive....A lot of them negative too.....Zach Lowe (the writer you guys call SuoerMan) putting us in the WTF are they doing category.

     

    It's been pointed out on multiple occasions that Lowe holds Hennigan in high esteem. So, overlooking that for a moment, most of the people on this forum are capable of respecting a writers opinion without holding his opinion as absolute gospel. Pretty much the only writer that I did hold in that regard was Hollinger because his opinions were based primarily on his formulas mixed in with a little scouting. You're pretty much the only member on this forum that relies solely on beat writers opinions for your opinions....and largely ignore the opinion of said writers when their opinions no longer align with your agendas. An example being how you placed so much emphasis on Chad Ford's opinion until after the draft when he praised our draft and you conveniently forgot that Chad Ford ever existed.

     

    The Magic, at some point, gotta start winning....plain and simple.

     

    Congratulations on making a statement that means absolutely nothing. You keep parroting these words and I don't know what you think is going to happen if we don't suddenly start winning games. Is the franchise going to fold or move to a different city? Are all of the fans going to simply cease being fans of the Magic and never come back? What do you believe will happen if the Magic don't start winning more games immediately? Nor do I know what you consider to be a realistic amount of games the team should win next season. Please tell me how many games you would realistically like to see the Magic win next year that would make you happy.

     

    Everybody says we are modeling the Spurs and OKC small market ways to run our organization.....How many consecutive years did those franchises suck and end up in the lottery ???

     

    Because we are staring year 3 right in the face.

     

    The Spurs were a perennial playoff team that lost one of the best centers in the league and were extraordinarily lucky enough to draft Duncan. They could have drafted a nobody the year they stunk and would have been right back in the playoffs the following year with Robinson returning. That example doesn't hold up.

     

    The Thunder were in the lottery for 3 straight years before they made the leap with the added benefit of selecting their franchise changing player in the first year of rebuilding process. Then they made the leap from a 23 win team to a 50 win team. If Durant had been drafted in year 2 or 3 of that process, it likely would have taken a few more years for them to jump to a playoff team.

     

    Edit: And like Captain pointed out, the Thunder didn't have to clear the roster of bloated, useless contracts like Rob Hennigan inherited. The job Hennigan has done in regaining cap flexibility in two short years is rather astonishing.

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    I'm ok with Junkie posting it although his reaction to the article was hardly surprising.

     

    I'm just trying to think of something more useless than a NBA power rankings in the middle of the summer. Only being able to find one glove? Having peanut butter and jelly with no bread? Come on guys, lets turn this thread into something useful and list things more worthless things than a mid-summer NBA power rankings.

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    i dont think we get or go after aldridge

     

    That's completely ok if you believe that as long as you realize that believing it doesn't make it anymore or less likely to happen. I know it wasn't you that said there's no chance he comes here, but that statement is rather absurd. There isn't a single person here who could have predicted the moves that Henny was going to make this offseason; I really doubt anyone know with any certainty what he's going to do in a year or two from now.

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    I don't think we will be worse than we were last season and I'll probably be a little disappointed if we are. I'm thinking we improve to 30 to 35 wins next season and see the type of progress that makes most realistic fans feel optimistic about the future. I do think we are one more decent draft away and one more years development of the players we have from making the playoffs.

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    I think you hit it on the head. Obviously Hennigan decided that the best way to rebuild was to basically start from scratch, assemble young talent, and hopefully develop a strong nucleus that can create a foundation for years of success. Judged from that standpoint, his moves were very good ones. However, if the overall concept fails, and the Magic don't develop the young talent into a competitive team in the next 1-2 years, then those individual moves really won't matter, and Hennigan will not be judged a success.

     

    So you are saying that, up to this point, he has done a good job.

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