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quote: Originally posted by ThuglifeJ:well it makes me wonder wen u ur registration date is this day, and ur talkin down about hte Magic and good about the Cavs. I think theres a lot of teams with good chances for ECF. I just hope its the magic. either way it will be intense matchups I've been following these forums for a while, I just decided I would rather put my thoughts into words and share my opinion with this forum.

quote: Originally posted by ThuglifeJ:ur the most negative "Crazy" Orlando fan. Ya i like the Diesel. But watchin his interviews, he doesnt seem to be the co-c-ky bigman he once was. Why? Oh cuz hes not as good as he once was. I do believe Shaq will help the Cavs. But to say VC Lewis, Nelson wont open up the floor like Hedo, Lee and Alston is rediculous. VC Is a better 3 point shooter then all 3 and so is Lewis. N Nelson averages a better 3 point % then anyone on the team. So u lost me there http://orlandomagiczone.com/ev...91029871/m/711103023 ^Go here and watch his videos under Range, n then tell me that the floor wont be opened up. N plus Dwight will be a year older, and bigger (from workouts durin summer) and Smarter. So i have a feeling he will take over ur Cavs. I just hope Queen James will shake our hands after getting swept It's funny how everyone on here has forgotten that if Boston had Kevin Garnett for the playoffs we never would have made it past Boston. They almost beat us WITHOUT Kevin Garnett. So we are absolutely not a lock next year to make the ECF and neither is Cleveland.

quote: Originally posted by ThuglifeJ:ur the most negative "Crazy" Orlando fan. Ya i like the Diesel. But watchin his interviews, he doesnt seem to be the co-c-ky bigman he once was. Why? Oh cuz hes not as good as he once was. I do believe Shaq will help the Cavs. But to say VC Lewis, Nelson wont open up the floor like Hedo, Lee and Alston is rediculous. VC Is a better 3 point shooter then all 3 and so is Lewis. N Nelson averages a better 3 point % then anyone on the team. So u lost me there http://orlandomagiczone.com/ev...91029871/m/711103023 ^Go here and watch his videos under Range, n then tell me that the floor wont be opened up. N plus Dwight will be a year older, and bigger (from workouts durin summer) and Smarter. So i have a feeling he will take over ur Cavs. I just hope Queen James will shake our hands after getting swept My Cavs? I don't like Cleveland. Just because I am worried about the trade now I am a Cleveland Fan?

quote: Originally posted by richnba: quote: Originally posted by emory889: quote: Originally posted by richnba:lol, at some of you cracking on the WNBA, them girls can ball. And I guarantee any of them will kick your butts in basketball. Sure, they can kick my butt. That really isn't saying much. If you put the best WNBA team against a very good boys high school basketball team they would lose. A decent college team would absolutely destroy them. Its just a terrible product to watch. Honestly, I think women's college basketball is a better product. At least on the college level they run offensive sets that can be considered "plays". As opposed to the WNBA where both teams quick the ball around until one team doesn't miss a open layup. A high school boys basketball team? No way, again really undervalueing the womens game. They are not terrible players, there game is more about fundamentals then the mens game. No the women's WNBA team would definately lose

quote: Originally posted by Guardian:We will probably sweep the series with Cleveland next year while Shaq is glued to the ground when playing Dwight. Are you guys kidding? Shaq will match up with Dwight much better than the Cavs' Ilgauskas ever could. This could pose problems when we play them again. Also, I think the ECF could have gone either way really. I mean yes we won, but we if Rashard hadn't won those 2 games for us by hitting a shot with less than 20 seconds left the Cavs very well may have won. Look at the stats when Shaq guarded Dwight and then look at the stats when Ilgauskas did and you will see my point. Without Hedo, Lee, and Alston to open up the floor the cavs won't have as difficult a time guarding and shutting down Dwight.

quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: Originally posted by aJJa: quote: Originally posted by Ted Stickle:Jameer is useless? He was an all-star. Or are you judging him on 5 Finals games. He costed Orlando at least two finals game loose..His injury made him useless.. Sorry but i m not sure how he ll return back.. i mean, this just proves you didn't watch the 1st half of the magic season. hedu only took over controlling the offense because meer wasn't around to do so. the magic had the best record in the nba because jameer was playing so well. do you just assume that because hedu is gone there is nobody left to run the offense and do pick and rolls with? Well, Jameer's play might be permanently affected because of this injury. You just never know how an injury will affect someone's play. He certainly didn't look like the old jameer in the NBA Finals, but that's probably just because he didn't play for so long.

quote: Originally posted by Miller4Prez64: quote: Originally posted by crazyorlandofan: quote: Originally posted by Miller4Prez64: quote: Originally posted by crazyorlandofan: quote: Originally posted by aJJa:VC trade means by by to Hedo, as i think this is a back step for Orlando. Iagree, what did VCdo all season and what did Hedo do.. VC, D12, Meer and Shard all will play , all want to play own ball and Orlando's team play will finish next year. Hedo was brain of the team. Maybe you ll not agree with me but i believe this. I just think everyone will want the ball and want to score all the time and our great team chemistry of last year will be undermined because of this VC deal. This really makes no sense, everyone will want the ball more now all of a sudden? Well it seemed like Lee and Alston were willing to share the ball and I think VC will want the ball a lot which means less touches for Dwight. You know Vince averaged the same amount of assists as Hedo, right? You probably didn't....but there you go. Carter took a backseat to Devin Harris last year and had no problem doing it, he's more of a team player than people give him credit for. I guess your right...

quote: Originally posted by Miller4Prez64: quote: Originally posted by crazyorlandofan: quote: Originally posted by aJJa:VC trade means by by to Hedo, as i think this is a back step for Orlando. Iagree, what did VCdo all season and what did Hedo do.. VC, D12, Meer and Shard all will play , all want to play own ball and Orlando's team play will finish next year. Hedo was brain of the team. Maybe you ll not agree with me but i believe this. I just think everyone will want the ball and want to score all the time and our great team chemistry of last year will be undermined because of this VC deal. This really makes no sense, everyone will want the ball more now all of a sudden? Well it seemed like Lee and Alston were willing to share the ball and I think VC will want the ball a lot which means less touches for Dwight.

quote: Originally posted by aJJa:VC trade means by by to Hedo, as i think this is a back step for Orlando. Iagree, what did VCdo all season and what did Hedo do.. VC, D12, Meer and Shard all will play , all want to play own ball and Orlando's team play will finish next year. Hedo was brain of the team. Maybe you ll not agree with me but i believe this. I just think everyone will want the ball and want to score all the time and our great team chemistry of last year will be undermined because of this VC deal.

quote: Originally posted by magicfan83: quote: Originally posted by crazyorlandofan: quote: Originally posted by jmmagicfan: quote: Originally posted by magicfan83:OK, this whole line of reasoning is really dumb. Cleveland purposely stuck West (instead of Lebron) on Hedo because Hedo has no post game and doesn't use his size to his advantage. Turk shot 39% for the series, and did most of his damage on the pick and roll, needing the pick to gain separation for West. Then Cleveland stuck Lebron on Alston, so Lebron could roam as a help defender and give Rafer the open shot. Well, now they have to stick Mo Williams on Nelson (good luck), West on Carter (Carter will still get the step on pick and rolls), and Lebron on Rashard. Lebron on Rashard is scary at first, but Lebron will HAVE to stay at home and that takes away their best help defender and ONLY shot blocker. If we get Wallace, he will cream Joe Smith/Varejao/Villanueva in the post and still stretch the floor when Dwight has the ball. Dwight will face up Shaq and use his quickness to get around him. +1 Even if we don't get Wallace, LeBron would have to stay at home on Pietrus and Shard can still draw the PF out. If we get Bass or McDyess, I still like the way we match up, since they both have a decent mid-range game. Well then you better hope we get one of them. Do you seriously believe we are going to stay put in free agency? With 8 guys on the roster? With the possibilities of a sign-and-trade with Turk to get him the money he is asking for? Do you think we are going to go into the season with 3 frontcourt players, including Lewis? Back of the ledge man, the roster is not nearly complete. I think we will pick up new players, it just better be someone good. We were stupid and let Ariza slip away to L.A. and look what happened to them.

quote: Originally posted by jmmagicfan: quote: Originally posted by magicfan83:OK, this whole line of reasoning is really dumb. Cleveland purposely stuck West (instead of Lebron) on Hedo because Hedo has no post game and doesn't use his size to his advantage. Turk shot 39% for the series, and did most of his damage on the pick and roll, needing the pick to gain separation for West. Then Cleveland stuck Lebron on Alston, so Lebron could roam as a help defender and give Rafer the open shot. Well, now they have to stick Mo Williams on Nelson (good luck), West on Carter (Carter will still get the step on pick and rolls), and Lebron on Rashard. Lebron on Rashard is scary at first, but Lebron will HAVE to stay at home and that takes away their best help defender and ONLY shot blocker. If we get Wallace, he will cream Joe Smith/Varejao/Villanueva in the post and still stretch the floor when Dwight has the ball. Dwight will face up Shaq and use his quickness to get around him. +1 Even if we don't get Wallace, LeBron would have to stay at home on Pietrus and Shard can still draw the PF out. If we get Bass or McDyess, I still like the way we match up, since they both have a decent mid-range game. Well then you better hope we get one of them.

quote: Originally posted by orlandomagicin09:the guy that made this topic is obviously not a magic fan.... Why?? Because I question our organization's decision and don't think it will play out??? You sir must not be a magic fan for not even being a slight bit concerned about this trade.

quote: Originally posted by Nyce_1:to the op, how do u feel about the trade IF we resign Turk and pick up Bass? in the end, we trade skip, battie, lee for vince, anderson, bass That would be a great move, the odds of getting Hedo back are slim to none I fear.

quote: If Cleveland doesn't keep Varejao, who exactly mans the 4 spot for them? Cleveland I think is going to make a run at Charlie Villanueva from Milwaukee.

quote: Originally posted by magicfan83: quote: Originally posted by emory889: quote: He was one of the reason the Cavs had such a hard time with us and caused matchup problems with him and Lewis on the floor. VC is much shorter than Turk and I believe the Cavs will have a much easier time guarding him and now we won't have Turk to cause havok for the matchup problems they had. I want someone to explain to me how Turk's size causes mismatch problems. He has no back to the basket game. He plays the same way on the perimeter no matter who is guarding him. Seriously, I'm all ears. You won't get an answer. And even if you did, I fail to see how Rashard Lewis at 6'10 doesn't provide the same size mismatch. Then consider how much better Lewis' post game is than Turk's, and its a pretty bad argument. If Cleveland doesn't keep Varejao, who exactly mans the 4 spot for them? The answer is above you ^^^