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Just want to add that Vooch is going nowhere. He's here for the contract.However, there is no need to trade Bamba. Only need to trade him if he is filler for a 20+ scorer.

Holy cow! The Timberwolves have scored 106 points in 3 quarters! What are we doing wrong! LOL!

Yes, from what i've seen we come out flat in the second half and it kills our ball movement and confidence. This is changing, slowly but surely.

Screw it, i like Evans feel for the game but he simply has reached his ceiling. Bring on Derozan. If all it cost was Fournier and Aminu i say bring it on! Then get lasik surgery for everyone else and hope they hit all the wide open 3's from Derozans mid-game.

Great win, we should have beat the Pacers as well, but moving on!

Breaking news!!!! Magic petition league to only play other teams coming off a back-to-back. Also, load management........

It's over, they can't hit enough 3's to come back.Good game.

Point is he failed here but now he is ok with good players.We don't need to fire any more coaches.Yes it's ok to call out rotations sometimes but the players have to come through sometimes. Looks like they are tonight.

If we can get 11 more points we win.

No i'm ok with the coach, no more coach killing.Time for the players to step up. You gonna question Vogel in L.A?

OMG we needed that sequence!

But, that's exactly what they did last spring. We just need a leader.

What a disaster after we hit 50.Typical Magic, couple wide open missed shots, Fournier turnover, no ball movement. Thank god for that Gordon 3.

Seriously guys, this is the thinking we need to embrace.Not saying he will be but if we don't take a chance, I could see Boston taking on a bad contract to get him, same with the Thunder.

Hayward move would be all about money. Boston could get two pieces under contract, Tatum and Brown makes him expendable.The team trading for him would do it for cap space in 2021.

Very well said. Don't think they trade Brown now that he is resigned and think they might move on from Hayward.I'm just not sure it happens in season. The Portland Trailblazers have to be the number 1 team most likely to make a move in December.I would love for us to be in on a trade.We need our guys to play well to increase value.Of course people want Simons, he seems like the type of player who might blossom.However i think it's looking more likely they trade CJ and pieces for some help and keep Simons. I can see a few small moves we could make with the Blazers or a few block-buster moves with multiple players switching teams. They can use Whiteside or Bazemore to trade with second tier teams to get middling help.They can finally decide to move on from CJ which would be more about the money. They can also send out Simons,Little and picks for some low key help, but i think they keep them.Unless they do a real blockbuster, in which case they gone. Frankly i would love dealing with the Blazers but it seems more likely the Thunder or even the Knicks trade with them. Edit; Forgot the obligatory trade that won't happen. Send them back Aminu and Fournier for McCollum. I'm sure they miss him!

I think there is always context. We had just came off a game with improved offense and started the game hot.It was a big game, we had the lead and blew it completely by getting outplayed in the 3rd. Getting destroyed in the 3rd quarter is pretty much peak Magic the last 4 years except post all-star break last year. It does appear that we were out coached and out hustled. You can talk missed shots and coaching all day but it all goes back to not having that guy who can stop the bleeding. At the end of quarters and especially at the end of games. I really thought this year Ross,Gordon and contract year Fournier were going to hit daggers.The slow start is just a little upsetting. When Ross gets back to himself some of these games are going to be easy, just getting impatient.

Been waiting for someone to bring those trades up. The Tobias trade was all about a power play between the coach and GM. Was the first time we all realized the rebuild was going fubar. The Oladipo trade is beyond description, almost every media outlet was scratching their heads the day it happened.The next day we all talked ourselves into it and the media wrote how it might work, but it was a mistake from day one and everyone knew it. I still think Henny did it as ***** you on the way out and to secure his old job back. In other words, don't let former trades scare you.The NBA is a players league, you get them any way you can and you don't stop trying.I guess the most amazing thing about the rebuild is that Vooch and Fournier are still here.From day one most of the forum posters knew they were complimentary pieces on a playoff team.Not bad players, but not good enough to be foundation players. I was so sure Henny would trade them, now they each had two contracts, under two regimes!Shaking my damn Head! TLDR; Change is good in the new NBA.

As soon as we saw the potential in Isaac we should have let Vooch walk and tried to trade Gordon and Fournier. Team would have been better served swinging and missing at Brogdon or any combo guard who can move without the ball. I would have used any asset we had to get a bruiser power forward and a cheaper stretch five. Then we could have experimented having Isaac play small ball 5 with a bruiser at 4 and Ross and hopefully some other acquired piece playing the 3 sometimes. Yes i would love to have a more traditional Small forward playing next to Isaac, they are very hard to get.Might want to draft one sometime. I guess that's Okeke next year?

Confidence does wonders for a team, when one of our guys gets it watch things change.

C'mon just having fun. They beat the Lakers without Lowry and Ibaka and making Dwight look bad.

https://streamable.com/poqi2 Against the best defense in the league. Not even showing you the Siakam highlights, they are ridiculous. Pascal is a star, this other guy came out of the g-league.Gets to the line, draws a foul. Our guy, clanks 3 pointers loses the ball on the way to the basket. Watch the highlights from this game if you want to see see real power forwards clown Dwight all night.

Every team makes mistakes, they must be strong and move on from them. LOL Mario!

The Bucks couldn't handle an extra 20 million after extending Bledsoe, but Malcom was restricted. The Pacers sent the bucks a first and second round pick in a sign and trade. 20 million dollars. We could have had 20 million, just renounce Ross and Vooch. Brogdon would have been awesome with Fultz. His minutes replace Ross's minutes. There is no loyalty in this league. I know Ross and Vooch had great years. The players aren't loyal, they move.Ownership is not loyal, they trade players, look at Blake Griffin and CP3. We need management with balls, they should have known we had second tier players and swung a trade. Maybe we would have been lucky and signed Baynes like the Suns. He is filling in nicely for the suspended Ayton putting up same numbers or better then Vooch. He is playing on a one year 6 million contract.No more excuses, either the players we have play better or get rid of them. Edit. Just want to add we were one of the hottest teams in the league last spring.Our players have never had more value. Our pick was in the mid teens, but still had value.The value was there, moves could have been made. Instead we drafted a player who is not playing for us and signed a defensive forward.

Defense was horrible in the second half, however it started because everyone went cold again.The offensive frustration carried over to the defense. It's called panic, i watched them, they folded. Like i said no alphas they all know now nobody is going to take over. It starts to become a mental state. I'm pretty sure you made a post about how we could have freed up 30 million, but only if we renounced Ross and Vooch. Yeah we all know that wasn't going to happen, too risky.