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    2019 Offseason Thread

    Zion played 9 minutes and got ruled out of summer league with a bruised knee, with the team saying that it’s only precautionary. Zion is most likely fully healthy and able to play, but NO understandably wants to be conservative. How we’re treating Bamba isn’t rare or new, and using not playing as an indictment against Mo is a stretch
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    He’s in Vegas watching our summer league game, for what that’s worth, and he has a relationship with Bamba that goes back. He’s been rehabbing and training in LA mostly so he hasn’t had an extended time with the team in general outside of the playoff run
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    By not giving up 3 unprotected firsts and Bamba. By doing that trade, we’re basically going all in for two years and being left with dramatically less upside.
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    The realistic output of that group would be 2nd round exits, with maybe a conference final if we get some luck— and that would only be for two years before Westbrook starts declining. I’d rather build for something greater.
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    Eh, I wouldn’t put too much weight into it. We’re 2& 1/2 months away from the start of training camp and Fultz is already putting up shots. We’re too far away to be getting discouraged, especially since he seems to be on a good track to be ready by the regular season.
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    Yeah. From what I’ve seen, he’s still struggling to get good position when posting up, but I also don’t care too much about that since I’m not a fan of post ups.
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    My thing is.... WeltHam have talked and shown their team building philosophy as the one where you build a team full of players that are long, can defend multiple positions and can switch without causing obvious mismatches. That was the rationale in drafting Bamba— crazy long and athletic center that turns ordinary mismatches on bad switches into a more even defensive match up, along with being a great shot blocker and potential stretch 5 in theory. Vuc is absolutely a defensive mismatch on switches, and that was shown versus Toronto, while being pretty close to a negative throughout the series. It just doesn’t make sense for their philosophy. It makes me wonder if Clifford is the one pushing for this and WeltHam are more or less acquiescing, but that’s just speculation on my part.
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    Yeah. I personally won’t have a problem with him missing time this season to make sure we get the best Markelle Fultz possible, but I think that the fanbase reaction to Fultz not being ready by the regular season will be much different than mine, and could possibly hurt Fultz’s recovery in terms of rushing back too soon.
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    2019 NBA Draft Thread

    NAW has a higher floor than KPJ, but I feel like Porter has a reasonable floor as well and would be able to contribute in his rookie season. KPJ has a lower yet respectable floor but a higher ceiling than NAW. NAW has a higher floor but lower ceiling. Picking at 16, I’m going to pick KPJ because I trust in his ability to get some sort of role for himself his rookie year as a shooter with some ball handling/driving ability, and then he’ll still have a high ceiling. I’m not going to be mad or anything if we pick NAW, but at 16, I prefer to take my shot with KPJ.
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    2019 NBA Draft Thread

    I mean, our backup point guards consisted of Grant, Briscoe and MCW, all of which Fultz has outplayed by a long shot with a broken shot. While you obviously want the Fultz that was a top draft prospect, I wouldn’t call it being stuck with him when it’s a legitimate upgrade for our rotation.
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    2019 NBA Playoff Thread

    Eh, not sure about this take— horribly refereed for both sides. There was a sequence in I believe the 4th quarter where the Warriors kicked the ball on defense and then Draymond tipped the ball in while it was still in the cylinder, and both went uncalled.
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    2019 NBA Draft Thread

    Kevaughn would be an interesting guy in the 2nd round. Was too passive during his career at UF, but has gobs of talent, microwave type scorer when he wanted to be. Might have to move to PG due to a lack of size and doesn’t fit the Hammond profile as a 2, but I’d be very happy with him in the 2nd
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    2019 NBA Draft Thread

    I don’t know about changed, but I’m pretty firmly on the Kevin Porter Jr. bandwagon that most don’t seem to be on. Love his offensive potential and he has some good traits defensively that you can project at the next level. I think his off the court issues are overblown, and I feel good about the locker room culture we have here anyways that I’m cool with taking a shot on him.
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    Haven’t watched the knicks other than when they play us, and I don’t remember Ntilikina much at all. Looking at stats, he looks like a marginally better MCW with a better shot (albeit, still well below average for his position) but a similar career AST/TO ratio, while being 7 years younger than MCW. I know he has the reputation of being a elite on ball defender, so you’re not losing much in the transition from MCW to Frank. I’d be fine if we made the trade since he presents upside and youth that MCW doesn’t have, while being better than Briscoe at a younger age as well, but there’s a fairly decent chance that he stays a offensively deficient guard that can defend.
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    2019 Offseason Thread

    I mean, we traded for Fultz to give him the PG keys— he’s going to have to earn them, obviously, but we’re going to give him every opportunity to do so. Trading or signing a prominent point guard would be getting in the way of that, along with tying up cap space in a position where our long term starter is (hopefully) already in place with a relatively cheap contract in Fultz. We should go into the season with DJ/MCW/Fultz. I would consider bringing in a prominent point guard a mistake.
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