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2 hours ago, JJZFL said:Vuc, Gordon, Isaac, Fournier, Ross and Birch may be the only long termers but they played the large majority of the minutes. WeltHam may have changed much of the team but mostly the moves have consisted of changing out one inconsequential player for another. No credit for that from my standpoint.
There does not appear to be any long term vision for making the team better.
I hope we see something significant out of Okeke or Cole because otherwise not only will we be worse than last year, but we’ll be even more boring. Our lack of offense is pitiful.
Couldn't agree more!
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2 minutes ago, Shine88 said:Can't lie. I kind of like the moves we made this off-season.
Would of liked Harkless over Ennis, but I understand the move.
But with that being said, I think we'll be players at the trading deadline.
What moves? We just resigned everyone we already had.
Running back with this squad feels so stagnant. Don't think we reach the 8th spot this year.
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18 minutes ago, All Eyes On Me said:I don’t hate this move in itself, it’s just extremely frustrating to continue to watch us do the bare minimum from a team building standpoint.
We are on the same page here.
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1 minute ago, jmmagicfan said:If he signed for the veteran minimum, he will still make almost exactly what he was scheduled, but the team saves $400K against the salary cap/luxury tax threshold. It kind of looks to me like he did us a favor by opting out. Considering he started the last 23 games for us, and played fairly well in the playoffs I don't actually hate this move. A cheap veteran that plays with hustle and passion, who can hold down the SF position until/unless Okeke is ready to take it from him doesn't seem like a bad call.
I don't hate the move. I hate how vanilla we are. This team as currently constructed is 8th-10th seed. If that's the case bring in some young guys that can be apart of the future. The results won't be much different.
With that said if we decide to trade Vuch or Founier to actually start looking at the future then I have no complaints.
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11 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:This goofy ass organization is really about to just run it back...
I hate this team!
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10 hours ago, Natesroom said:reminds me of Courtney lee
I agree. I don't see anything special. He's a piece but not a guy you build around.
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2 hours ago, Soul Bro said:Outside of Issac, Herro arguably looks better than any player on our roster in terms of upside. At some point, we need to start drafting players with actual skills and not just measurements.
I agree. I just don't agree that Herro is more than a rotational wing player. That's exactly what he looks like.
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On 9/24/2020 at 12:11 AM, Mauro Pedrosa said:We all have a bad take every now and then.
Herro is quickly becoming one of my favorite players
But 4thewin isn't wrong.
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3 hours ago, Jason Funderburker said:Rotational wing player
Is that not what he is though?
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29 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:You know how you build conditioning? Playing! How do the Magic expect him to ever get better if he doesn't play?
I hate that Birch has played over him so much this year. Birch has been just as awful and has gobbled up all the minutes.
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3 hours ago, JJZFL said:He’ll be out the entirety of next season. Nothing “overly cautious” about it.
There is a chance he will not be able to return at all but it’s fairly small. There is a bigger chance that he returns but at a lesser level of performance. I completely agree with Gordon MVPs take on this.
Overall, I find it hard to look at this team as currently constructed and find a lot of excitement for the future. Always possible Bamba or Fultz will turn into something very special but at this point it’s a long shot. Okeke seems like a solid role player to me if he pans out.
Our management is always overly cautious . So add a few months to whatever the actual timetable is.
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7 hours ago, s1n1st3r12 said:So what is the time on Isaac 6 months?
Probably gonna be at least 12 months especially with our overly cautious management.
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17 hours ago, BBROSS said:We dont have much in the way of young guys either to be honest.
Okeke, Fultz, Bamba, Isaac. Plenty of young guys.
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Somehow I feel like this means we keep Vuch around a little longer than we would had if Isaac remained healthy.
I just want the keys turned over to the young guys!
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1 minute ago, harley said:I mean what do we do now with his contract? 3 for 30? This is *****ed
Get him as cheap as possible and move on.
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30 minutes ago, Soul Bro said:My heart hurts
Losing to the Lakers in the finals and JI getting hurt again...two most painful moments for me. We have waited so long for tge rebuild to pay off. Now we wait even longer.
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The squad is back boys!
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7 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:Imagine if we played Isaac in a pointless scrimmage when he's not 100% ready, he did his ACL, missed all of next season, never came back with the same explosiveness and ruined his career. All to appease fans who "hate that we coddle young guys", all so he could be a "man".
Imagine paying some of the world's experts on maintaining player health, load management, conditioning etc and then actually taking advice from those people and not random fans who know nothing about the situation except what they read online.
Imagine we played Isaac during the first game of the season, while being 100%, and he tears his ACL, just to start the season 1-0. It's sports injuries can happen anytime.
The Isaac situation is different than the Fultz situation. They have continually mislead the fanbase about his injury as if we are a bunch of idiots.
If Fultz isn't ready he isn't ready. That doesn't change how overly cautious management has been. Which is fine but could also be considered a bit extreme.
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13 hours ago, Soul Bro said:I don’t understand how someone like Vooch is in shape and Fultz is not. Maybe he was dealing with a small injury or something? I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Go Magic!
We just like to coddle the young guys and I hate it!
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How many scrimmages are there? I'd guess Isaac will play in the last 1-2 and then be on a minute restriction for the season and go full during the playoffs.
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43 minutes ago, Natesroom said:anyone have any info on the scrimmage? did they get a chance to watch?
It's tomorrow.
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1 minute ago, zollman said:Thoughts on Isaac?
I think the org is Playing it safe to temper expectations, but the more I see him involved in the practices (and hopefully scrimmages)... I think there is a higher probability that he plays than we realize..
Yea just seems like our weird ass front office is being weird. 2 weeks ago he was not doing any contact practices and today he is doing 5 on 5 although on a limited basis. I'd bet he plays.
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3 hours ago, jjgator said:Injuries can change or be unpredictable or vary depending on the individual. Injuries like most other things in this world aren't black and white.
Then say that! They haven't been up front since the injury.
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The issue with the Isaac thing isn't that he is sitting out. It's that the front office has misinformed and all but lied to us fans. What's the point of all the secrecy? If he's hurt he's hurt. If he's not then stop bull****ting us.
2020 Official Off-Season Thread
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It's not about trading for talent. It's about trading the guys who are not apart of the future and are hindering the potential of the other guys.
Mitchell and Murray were afforded the ability to take over and be the guy. So long as Vuch and Fournier are here that won't be happening.