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Yeah—like we addressed the scoring/shooting issues this past off-season with Aminu.

It’s hard for a front office to make mistakes when they sit on ass year in and year out. Why 3 years post-Hennigan does this team still revolve around Hennigan guys? Why do we continue to align ourselves with mediocrity? Drafting JI and the Fultz trade are the loan good moves. Giving Vuc a 4 year deal was all time stupid BTW. Can’t wait to see us lock Fournier up. That’ll be the nail in the coffin. Maybe we’re still “evaluating the roster”.

Lol

Their handling of any pic outside of their first pick each year is abysmal. Let us not forget when the draft “flattened out” when Kuzma went 2 picks later. I remember being told Weltman and Hammond thrived at identifying talent. That’s proven to be anything but their strength here. Not really sure how they keep getting passes.

Why would we give up a second rounder for Ennis? Good god this regime does not know for the life of them what to do with second round picks. It’s awful.

Not only in the league but soon to be on your favorite NBA team.

This makes more sense.

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It wasn’t though. Why did we need another combo forward who can’t shoot? We needed a guard who can score. Aminu is terrible.

This is why I had to peace out the past 8 months or so. I couldn’t believe the amount of fans that were excited and happy with our moves. Vuc and Ross both were in contract years and played like it.That was complete fools gold and people ate it up. I get we were in the midst of a playoff drought so people were naturally excited but anyone with some forward thinking could tell our team still lacked to much talent overall. It was so obvious to me all we did was lock ourselves into mediocrity. 7-8 seed for the foreseeable future which like you stated is actually the worse place to be. But the FO was getting pressure from fans and probably ownership that we had to keep our “first all star since Dwight” and build off our playoff run. This team was not skilled enough to make the moves we did last summer. We still need a good young piece. Should have let Vuc and Ross walk and focused on adding another prospect to go with JI and Fultz (Bamba too if you’re a believer). Locking up a roster that won 42 games and probably overachieved in doing so wasn’t the smart play. The Aminu signing was laughable too.

Those teams are historically run better than the Magic so it only makes sense they find way to improve most years.

AG swap for Oubre? Oubre would be a much better fit as a more natural shooter/scorer.

Good fight by the boys lastnight.

What’s happened to Gordon this year? My thoughts on AG are very well documented on here—but even I’m surprised of how poor his play is. Just seems like he’s regressing across the board.

Man that Aminu signing gets worse and worse. Hated the move the moment I heard it and I haven’t been letdown since.

AG for Gary Harris. Both slightly overpaid but near identical contracts. Harris would bring a pure shooting guard to the starting lineup and should help out quite a bit in our half court sets. He’s still a solid defender too. Fultz/Harris/Fournier/JI/Vuc Or maybe you start Aminu and bring Fournier off the bench. Ideally Okeke has started potential next year. Not great by any stretch but it’s a start.

Lol. The fans that were content with the off-season where we did nothing but bring every player back on a 42 win team that probably overachieved now appear to be not so content. Oh wait, nvm we gave a multi year deal to another combo forward who can’t shoot. I’m not saying I’m happy this is happening but it is reassuring knowing how predictable this season was. Its still a 40 win team. Idk why people would have expected much more than that.

It already has. That deal alone has completely caused me to question why I invest so much time and money into this organization. It’s why I’m rarely on or posting to this forum. I like to keep my negativity away but sometimes I can’t help it. It was a desperate deal to appease casual fans and keep our “all star” around and be able to make the playoffs as a 6-8 seed for the foreseeable future. I’ll never under any circumstance understand why we had to do the 4 years. Absolutely won’t get it. If you want to overpay for a 1-2 year deal while Bamba develops then fine. But 4 years was absolutely inexcusable and one of the more nearsighted moves I can remember. Vuc duped everyone and I remember saying it all last year and all off-season. He has spike seasons in contract years. He will go back to what he’s always been this season. Sorry to bring the negative energy but it just infuriates me.

This is terrible for players and that’s why we never have seen a player go this route. You want to start your first contract to get to your bigger second contract. He essentially doesn’t have a job now. A lot can happen in a year. As a player you need to get pen to paper and secure your finances.

Thanks for that explanation P4TW. I see so little to gain from his perspective to not sign now. He’s hurt. What if he has a setback or a career ending injury? A freak car accident? Anything could happen. I would want to sign and get my money as soon as possible. This is super strange to me. Not sure why a media member can’t just ask management.

Can someone explain to me what that Smith guys tweet means? Why TF would okeke agree to not sign and take a “redshirt”? So he stays jobless and hurt this season? Do nba teams have an obligation to sign draft picks before a certain date in order to retain their rights? If I’m Okeke I’m not on board with any of this and it doesn’t seem like it would be possible under any bargaining agreement. I feel like if we just refuse to sign him he should be free to sign with any nba team he wants. I need a detailed explanation because this doesn’t seem reasonable.

Alright. Its getting weirder by the day to me.

Can anyone confirm the reason why Okeke isn’t signed yet? Is there a benefit for us or him waiting this long? Is there a reason we wouldn’t want to sign him yet?

Wow. Was not expecting that. I might go play the lottery tonight ;)

Mehhh I would say Fultz. JI isn’t an alpha.