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No one was expecting Magic to win...but this team is painful to watch...so heavy, awkward, missing open shots, taking terrible shots, lazy, playing without any passion...just absolutely awful...

Okay you are correct I know nothing.

Giannis isn’t the reason that every player is missing every open jump shot.

I know the playoffs were cool last year for newer Magic fans but I hope nobody spends a dime on this garbage product! Hello Alex!!

We are beyond crap. Bucks or not. Embarrassing

AG gotta stop taking those contested midrange jumpshots he must be shooting 10% on those.

Imagine having to be Fournier’s teammate

Cap room isn't a plan.

You first assumed I was talking about the summer of 2020 now you are assuming I am talking about 2021. I simply was stating the Magic have a much better chance of attracting stars if they have 2 slots available where they can attract 2 stars that might want to play together to come here. Why do you assume things so much? You might want to listen more.

i know he was unprofessional about it he shouldn't have done it but people get angry and in the moment i was more surprised that they admitted the 2 mistakes and still fined him but hey, he hasn't given up caring lol

You guys should really check out the full interview of the above quotes. Especially those who think we did a poor job yesterday. All your questions are answered. https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-open-mike-26936807/episode/magic-president-of-basketball-operations-jeff-57186593/?cmp=web_share

I have just cancelled my league pass. Feels good. Gonna sit the rest of the year out.

I'm REALLLLLLLY trying to see a cohesive plan to make this team more than an also ran. Henny's plan was to build around Vucevic, Fournier and Payton. That didn't work. Weltman has tinkered around the edges trying to change the culture and perception of the franchise. Almost all of Weltman's moves thus far have been minimal risk with some potential for high upside. Isaac had the low floor of a 3 and D, Bamba of a shot blocking specialist, Okeke of another 3 and D. The trade for Fultz was essentially spare parts for a young back-up PG. Without a doubt all 4 of these low risk moves could develop into the foundational building block necessary to get us beyond late lotto/first round exit purgatory. Not one of those four is over 22, but then again all 4 have injury history that has hampered their development and likely left Weltman scratching his head regarding whether even 1 of the 4 will be able to serve as a building block. Building blocks aren't easy to find. We have been waiting for Aaron Gordon to become that foundational piece, but at this point it appears he is going to be a really good third or fourth wheel on a competitive club. I still think it is possible his development has been retarded by buddy ball, but Gordon certainly hasn't demanded he be option 1 and his career 45/32/70 percentages don't suggest he'd be anything but a volume scorer if he was option 1. Still, a hyper athletic sidekick to a foundational piece is not easy to find either. I'd love to see us get that building block through a trade, but it isn't coming back in exchange for Vuc or Fournier. If it were, that move would have already been made. Bamba, Fultz and Okeke have sufficient questions about their upside that they won't be the heart of any deal. That leaves Gordon and Isaac. Weltman loves long athletically gifted bigs. It is understandable he isn't ready to move on from either at this point. So Weltman appears content to bet on the high upside, low risk 4 above plus Gordon to eventually supplant Fournier and Vucevic as the faces of the franchise, but he's not willing to blow it up and go back to winning 20 something games and risk a losing culture setting in again. He gave Vucevic and Gordon large front-loaded contracts that get easier to move if they are made expendable. He gives mid-level contracts to recognized "professional" guys that do it the right way and can be mentors (Augustine, Ross and Aminu). If we wanted to move these guys for cap space, you'd have to think it wouldn't be all that hard. The pressing issue now is what to do about Fournier. I detest buddy ball, but Fournier for another year wouldn't be the worst thing in the world as there is no one pushing for his minutes and there isn't anyone currently on the roster that looks like a long term replacement. Unless 6'8" 230 lb Chuma Okeke or this years 1st round pick are going to take those minutes next year, we'd be missing a lot (you have no idea how hard this is for me to type) if Fournier isn't on this team next year. So what option is left to Weltman? He has to waiting on Isaac and Okeke to get healthy and for Fultz and Bamba to demand minutes this year at the expense of the vets. Fultz is doing his part, though without a 3 point shot his ceiling is looking low. Bamba is making the most of the minutes. Unlike last year he is getting significantly outplaying Birch. That's a plus. He certainly isn't threatening Vuc's minutes yet, but he also may be proving enough to make Vuc expendable if the right deal came along. Isaac was doing good work when he got injured. Hopefully the injury doesn't set him back. Okeke is thought to be the shooter this team sorely needs. I really don't like watching Vuc, Evan and Ross take half of our shots on any given night, but for lack of a better options I think Weltman is stuck with it until Gordon, Isaac, Fultz, Bama or Okeke demands those shots through their play. When they do, the Magic will have taken the next step.

This is exactly right. When Cliff preaches about accountability he means that he holds a subset of the team accountable. The most egregious part about it is that Bamba has been in the "starting to turn the corner" phase for a little while now, and yet he receives no additional faith for it. If anything, it seems like Clifford is getting more strict with him as his play improves, which makes absolutely no sense. Especially when you consider that Vooch has been terrible. I don't get it man.

I think he's trying to say your post would be looked at more favorably if you talked TO people instead of DOWN.TO people

I saw someone running on the street screaming crazy stuff on church street at 3:15pm. i am really worried about magicman28. Hopefully, it wasnt him.

I am officially off the boat with this team. They just can’t get it done. They lack purpose

Gabriel was really smart because he was one of the first GM's to do that. He set up a situation where Orlando was pretty much the only team with cap space. In 2021 almost every team will have cap space. Cap space isn't a great strategy when every team has it.

Don't over analyze it.

Surely it’s time to just sit Vooch and AG. Must be embarrassing for them as well. What a decline. Wow