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Release Fournier. Would be a pure case of addition by subtraction.

Cliff loves to be a hard ass in the media about the shortcomings of the team and accountability, but he needs to look in the mirror sometimes. He's done plenty of dumb things this season (some that continue bc they seem to be part of his philosophy) that go on without much criticism because he is only answering questions from like 6 local media members. PnR coverage scheme against Kemba/Dame types Forcing Birch into a major role he isn't suited for (much of this is injury-induced, but I still think he's overplaying him) The Vooch keeping his hands down thing (makes no sense and happens so often I can't imagine Vooch is just doing it on his own) Inconsistent enforcement of accountability where Bamba gets pulled for one mistake but Vooch is allowed to tank the game for 9 straight minutes

We are stuck with the same buddy ball for the last four years. Yep u say we are in some easily changeable position but never do. Insanely backing our new management as if they have done something innovative.

I don't even have emotions towards the team at this point. I feel so calm. It's beyond PATHETIC.

Nah. We're not stuck yet as we sit today. Uncertainty is scary but we're fine from a long term perspective. Short term is the ****ty part.

We're "kind of stuck" either way. And that's a nice way of putting it

You trade for Wiggins if you think the combination of Clifford and the player development system and culture you have can unlock that next level for him. If he doesn't reach that you are just kind of stuck.

I spend way too much time thinking about Wiggins. He's having one of his weeks right now where he looks like a star. Previous two weeks he was unplayable.

It’s sad when even you have joined the dark side haha. But frankly, it’s the realistic side. This team isn’t going anywhere as currently constructed

As much as it is frustrating that we have not turned the corner I think staying positive is better off. Once we get rid of the baggage (hopefully Fournier, Vooch and to an extent AG) the core we have is pretty good. It might be a bit different if Isaac had not gone down.

This is the Andrew Wiggins you talk yourself into

I mean how stupid do you have to be to start birch at the 4?

Whats the point in having Birch in when hes having to guard on the perimeter? It takes away any remote strength he has and leaves him completely useless.

Maybe. We are 13-19 when he plays and 8-9 when he doesn't. I think we are just who we are for now.

Your memory sucks then. Because it's documented on the internet.

What ever happened to that Vogel guy we used to have?

AG tries to do too much.