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It's been a long road trip. Not making excuses, but these guys are probably waiting on their 2nd wind. Maybe after they get the blood flowing a little bit...

We are going through the motions. Vooch looks disinterested This is a terrible effort so far

I think the key here was in the phrase " I think a lot of player's value is natural but a large underrated portion is putting them into the best position to succeed. " Are we really putting them in the best position as others team listed above has done? I'm not sure about that. Bad habits are also the ones we have with this team, over and over in the las few seasons. Article on Fultz https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/1/17/21070255/markelle-fultz-orlando-magic

In the past, Fournier and Vuch were accused of playing 'buddy ball'. I don't see that as the case now. The bro'mance was over at the start of this season with each doing his own thing. Both have played well at times this season but not consistently. If we must get rid of one of them, it would have to be Fournier. He wants to be 'the guy', and all he does is pad his stats. Most of the time he over dribbles, looking for his own shot instead of passing the ball and getting the entire team involved in ball movement. He also needs to see an orthopaedic surgeon about his right elbow. He's constantly called for a foul because that elbow keeps getting in the way of the defender. There might be something wrong with it and he does not have control of it. ;)

Not a fun game to watch BUT 1-Fultz continuing to improve 2-i don’t think Evan was physically ready to play, especially in the 4th 3-inconsistent shooting once again, very difficult to overcome not all is gloom and doom which occurs in abundance after every loss!

Isaac has defensive player of the year upside. Fultz has definite star moments and the pedigree to give him that kind of ceiling. This month alone he has a 6 steal game, the highest single game +/- in the post Dwight era, and a 12 point 4th quarter against another playoff team. We played the draft pick game already and it didn't work. It requires considerable luck and the right guy to be there and we're not in a place to sacrifice seasons of guys we already have. And is Boston succeeding simply because of jaylen Brown and Tatum's talent? Or are they succeeding because they added those guys to a 48 win team that had good vets to teach them how to win? Is Toronto succeeding simply because of siakam and Fred Vanvleet's talent? Or are they succeeding because they added those guys to a 56 win team that had good vets to teach them how to win? What about Utah with Donovan Mitchell? I think a lot of player's value is natural but a large underrated portion is putting them into the best position to succeed. I don't think you can just lose for several years and gather a ton of young players together and expect them to turn into winners. It's why Phoenix hasn't succeeded with their 10 lotto picks in the last 9 drafts. It's why the Lakers looked terrible before they dumped all their young players. It's why Minnesota hasn't had any sustained success despite being in the lottery almost every year since 2005. You gotta get talent then develop it. You can't just let the talent lose and develop bad habits.