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It is interesting that the top player on each team was the #15 pick in their respective drafts, but is it anything?!?

I like LeBron just fine but do have a healthy disdain for all things Lakers. The playoffs have been just fine without the Lakers in it for over half a decade. I think that other markets getting shine is good for the league. The East is set up to be gritty and competitive for years. That is also very good for the league. More rivalries which is good for the league in an upcoming post LeBron era.

It's so refreshing to see the league finally saved from that toxic, synthetic, exasperated, I hope the Lakers miss the playoffs again next season. I dont think they will but it would be great for the rest of authentic NBA if they did. I love seeing the east being strong this season. I just wish it was last year that this happened. Its bitter that the east didnt eliminate lebron but it is sweet that he didnt make the west playoffs.

My goodness, the ego just won’t let go. If you look at the full contents of dialog, I said there is potential value in the second round beyond the Grant discussion. Please let this go you are looking silly. I’m done with this discussion, if your ego is going to pick out pieces of the dialog like a politician, then go for it, to sooth your ego, but I’m finished with this discussion.

I think the real point is that good management is able to find those second round contributors with more consistency, that is part of how they establish themselves. The Spurs are good at it, and used the late second round for "draft and stash" players. It is no accident that 40% of the MIL/TOR starting lineups are 2nd round picks, 20% are "late" second round picks. It is a testament to the management of the teams that found them. They were selected by Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, and the Lakers (Gasol, who was immediately part of the trade package for his brother!). It is promising to me that WeltHam had a hand in one of those 2nd rounders, and found Giannis with #15. It says something about their ability to assess talent. So, I think that your point about little value at the end of the second round is a little simplistic; finding value there is definitely difficult, it isn't there every year, it has to fit your team, and the odds for finding it greatly depend on who is doing the looking. I think we may finally have the right guys in charge to be able to find it, now it is a matter of the rest. We don't have a lot of slots open right now, even if we did find it, now you have to find a space for it. You don't give up an Iwundu for a late 2nd rounder who gives you 75% of what he does, there isn't a real value there; but if you find someone who gives you more than Frazier, you consider waiving him and opening his slot up.

No need to go back here but I said there is value in the second round; that’s it, I didn’t say beginning, middle or end; just second round.

Holy cow, i thought we already had our revenge for Shaq with the Dwightmare. This would be beautiful, Vooch to the Lakers is a real possibility.

Shameless copy paste from S.A. Bucks Starting Lineup 39th pick 18th pick 15th pick 36th pick 10th pick Raptors Starting Lineup 48th pick 15th pick 46th pick 27th pick 24th pick Remember folks not all stars are lottery picks. Also most of the players from both teams started with another franchise. A good front office finds a way to get unproven players from elsewhere and turn them into productive veterans.

Yeah!

Which rivalry do you consider the greatest in sports history? Team rivalries and individual rivalries? I'd have to go with Real Madrid vs Barcelona as teams and Lionel Messi vs Cristiano Ronaldo for the individuals, followed closely by Magic vs Bird.

The simple fact is the expected value of a pick in the bottom of the lottery isn't very remarkable. The expected return on one of those picks is someone like Darius Johnson-Odom. For every amir Johnson, gortat, or better player that finds themselves in that range there's 20 guys like Devyn Marble. If you want to say "no, I was talking about second rounders in general" then that's not really pertinent to the conversation we were having which was "it's not a big deal that we gave up the 51st pick for jerian Grant". But you didn't mean that. You're just moving the goalposts. And if you didn't want to reopen this discussion, why bring it up again 10 weeks after it was settled? You don't get to take a shot at me then complain when I respond.

Probably not, as we don't have any real cap room to sign him to an offer sheet (RFA) unless we waive Ross, Vuc, and Martin, which would still only bring us to about $15M. Even then, Boston could still match, leaving us with nothing. Also, it would mean we already gave up on developing Fultz. Rozier already has shown he isn't happy/comfortable as a bench player.

So is rozier still an option this summer?

Kind of nice not having to be disappointed by ping pong balls tonight for the first time in awhile.

This year are in South korea...ummm wow

I disagree. It is not about the arrest but more about his actions. He was irresponsible, defying authority and trying to get what he wanted at any cost. We don't need that here. His in-court talent is not that valuable to over shadow his poor attitude and low risk of becoming a locker room nightmare. I rather give Iwundu that SF back up role

:) sorry I struck a nerve :) thank you it illustrates my point.