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We don't have a legit starting 5 now. Lol

What’s hard is EP, Fournier and Vooch might try and have this killer mentality, but all of them look like they are limited physically compared to other starters around the league. Kemba torched EP, Fournier is regularly held in check by gritty players, and Vooch is a lumbering big. Add in the drag from EP’s hair, and these cats are just a step behind.

Glad to see you actually quote the tweet rather than copy/pasting the text.

Agree. They play without effort and too comfortable. They like to shoot the ball too much and not playing in the paint. That is why Vuch is not helping at all with our offense. He does the pick and rolls and likes to stay behind the 3 point line or just above the free throw line. He doesnt cut to the basket like Dedmond or even Oquinn did when they were playing for us. We need a more athletic and aggressive center. I see Vuch trying on occasions but it is not really his game. He is not even posting anymore. That could be on Vogel as well but my point is that he is not aggressive in getting to the basket and looking for the foul. Hence, the low rate FT line visits. Again, we need to make a move sooner than later. We cant just be too behind 500 to act. Making a major move too late will put us in a very bad position to eventually end shy of a playoff spot and with a very late lottery pick.

Yeah. Kemba Dwight is one of the best pick and roll pairs in the league. Payton vuc is historically terrible at defending p&rs. Vucevic can't defend athletic centers Someone took a chunk out of my car door 6 months ago. Looks like they just slammed their door into it. I was pissed that day. I was mad for the next two weeks. Today it doesn't bother me. Tomorrow I'm not going to wake up to a undented door. Its not worth the energy to bother with because it just is what it is now. So is vucevic. we've discussed the same flaws in his game for years now. Can't be mad at him anymore with it because this is who he is. Be mad at management if they get a chance to get any non negative option long term for him and they hang on for the better deal.

Yes. I heard that myself. Our league perception. lol

Did I just hear someone in the crowd say, "That guy, really? " after Speights nailed a three?

This bench...offense is dreadful. Oh my space deity.

This team just has our number. Hopefully we're competitive.

I'd take it. Would really hand the keys over to AG with Wes being a great catch and shoot, and Noel being a defensive specialist. It may not be equal value because of Fournier (Vuc has barely any value, no one wants slow bigs that can't play D). I'm really over Vuc and Fournier, the latter more so. Always loved Noel. I remember in NBA 2K12 (I think) I played a long association mode with the Magic (as I do every year). Someone made a realistic draft class for the following season and put it into the game. We ended up getting the number 1 or 2 pick and I took Noel and developed him into a beast over the next few years, since then I've always liked the guy (I had him into about year 3 in-game before he was even drafted into the NBA).

I would prefer to include Harrison Barnes instead of Wesley Matthews. Something like Fournier + Vuc for Barnes and Noel. We should also try to get Jordan Clarkson from the Lakers. Something like Mack, Mario and a 2rd I would prefer to include Harrison Barnes instead of Wesley Matthews. Something like Fournier + Vuc for Barnes and Noel. We should also try to get Jordan Clarkson from the Lakers. Something like Mack, Mario and a 2rd pick for Clarkson could help both teams. L.A. would get some extra money to spend in the offseason. Clarkson/Payton/Augustine Ross/Simmons/Clarkson Barnes/Isaac/Simmons Gordon/Barnes/Isaac Noel/Bis/Speights If Noel plays well we could still try to sign him in the offseason longterm. For that we have to move Augustin, Bis and our 1rd pick for some capspace. pick for Clarkson could help both teams. L.A. would get some extra money to spend in the offseason. Clarkson/Payton/Augustine Ross/Simmons/Clarkson Barnes/Isaac/Simmons Gordon/Barnes/Isaac Noel/Bis/Speights If Noel plays well we could still try to sign him in the offseason longterm. For that we have to move Augustin, Bis and our 1rd pick for some capspace.

Like 20 turnovers

Fine. Spacing was more of an issue with non- shooting Payton with non - shooting Gordon and non - shooting biyombo. Gordon being a legitimate threat helps. Some points it might be an issue but you can make adjustments with Augustin or speights. Overall its a net positive getting vuc out of the lockerroom